Primjećujem da ima i na našem nebu neobičnih oblaka. Danas sam vidjela jedan - poput ogromnog svemirskog broda...


Baš sam pomislila da neki liče na NLO - onog istog dana kad je postana ta transkripta (da NLO-i mogu biti kamuflirani u oblake) - možda mi netko i povjeruje na riječ...


bujna mašta ili ne

Najefikasnije se maskirati u nesto poznato na cega ovce vise ne obracaju paznju.

[quote="Grunfer"]Prije koji dan sam stavio ove linkove i jedan govori o toj temi, zalosno je sto nitko nista nije komentirao cak niti ovaj oblak, makar da je netko rekao WOOW

Ja nikako da vidim nešto takvo, u "realnom svijetu", ako sam i vidjela, pokušavala sam što racionalnije valjda objasniti te stvari.Mjera opreza da ne upadnem u zamku samozavarvanja. rekla sam već da se nikada nisam bavila s misterijama s tog UFO espekta, niti da sam povezivala na ovaj način ezoteriju i ufologiju. Mogu sada samo čitati i pokušati intelektualno shvatiti neke stvari i poveznice. Iz svojeg kuta.
PS.stavila sam na Linkove gdje se može skinuti Tertium u pdf formatu na engleskom dakako, i ja je preporučujem za pročitati..

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1512284.html?menu=

Superman spotted in Serbia

Serbian authorities are investigating reports of a real-life Superman after people claimed to have seen a cloaked figure flying over their houses.

Hundreds of residents in Ljubovija described seeing a cloaked person flying above buildings "as if he had an invisible engine on his back" and changing directions while in mid-air, local daily Blic reported.

One local said: "It was like something out of Superman or Batman. No one has any rational explanation for what we all saw."

Police in the town have refused to comment.
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a da nije NLO?

Napomena moderatora:
O ovome ima u Alternativnim vjestima, ima i slike.

Evo ista vijest samo na nasem jeziku:


Tajanstveni leteći fantom nakon 38 godina viđen nad Srbijom
Objavljeno prije sat vremena


INAČE mirni gradić Ljubovija smješten u zapadnoj Srbiji proteklih je dana sve samo ne miran. Naime, mještani tog gradića na Drini vidjeli su leteću figuru u obliku čovjeka kako leti iznad njihovih krovova.

Tajanstveni fantom na leđima je imao plašt, a oči su mu čudno sjale, piše srpski Blic pozivajuću se na izjave svjedoka.

Prema riječima očevidaca, figuru misterioznog letaša okruživao je "čudan odsjaj". Letač je najprije s krova u Karađorđevoj ulici preletio na krov takozvane Žute zgrade, da bi nakon toga bio viđen kako velikom brzinom leti prema "Ljubovijatransu".

Cijela priča počela je zvučati uvjerljivo kad su letećeg fantoma opisali i novi svjedoci, koji su ga spazili kod brda Klik. Njihov opis bio je potpuno identičan opisu prvih očevidaca, piše srbijanski Blic.


Opsirnije: http://www.index.hr/clanak.aspx?id=279787

Napomena moderatora:
O ovome ima u Alternativnim vjestima, ima i slike.

Ko što reče Ilija Čvorović:
'Oni to rade javno da ne bi izgledalo tajno.'

Evo, upravo sam skenirao tečaj engleskog jezika, jednu zbirku gramatike, izgovora i testova... nije ni bitno... za ljude koji žele učiti jezik.
I jednostavno je UOBIČAJENO na ovom jednom mjestu prikazano "viđenje NLO-a" kao jedna najnormalnija stvar... koju je normalno navesti i u nekom udžbeniku... hehe!



Za koju godinu, u školama će se učiti vjerojatno i ostatak svega ovoga o čemu mi ovdje razgovaramo...

Baš ti hvala na ovome, Jack!

Hehe,ja sam prosle godine ucio past continuous tense:) Video sam par puta u mom udzbeniku engeleskog za 6. razred NLO-e...

Tko o čemu, ja o toalet papiru

Nekidan sam kupila pakovanje toalet papira Zewa for Kids. Na omotu, gledam danas, nacrtani cvijeće, životinjice itd. - i jedan leteći tanjur. Pa tako krenem odmotavati par rola (iako sam vjerujte imala pametnijeg posla) i naletim na cijelu rolu "posvećenu" letećim tanjurima, a na jednoj sličici čak je i ovaj naš planet okružen letjelicama. Hm...

Evo to je ovaj proizvod:

www.awt.hr/hrv/proizvodi_sca/novosti.asp

Tako se i ovo našlo u temi NLO/UFO...

U poslednje vrijeme sve češće se viđaju i ove leteće forme:



Čini se da su ove stvarčice relativno male po veličini a viđaju se u blizini znakova u žitu ili “svetih mjesta” (vjerovatno u vezi portala?).

Pozdrav!

Evo još malo interesantnih oblika NLO-a

Bas sam gledao juce ili prekjuce na TVu emisiju o NLO. Elem, lik, hoax buster je napravio bas ovakav model NLO-a, zatim ga snimio, i napravio bas ovakvu montazu, da pokaze kako je jednostavno napraviti lazne slike NLOa i to veoma uvjerljive ....

A, ima li u Hrvatskoj NLO-a... pitajmo naše "zaštitnike neba", zračne snage... Evo što sam našao:

Faxed Questions To The Croatian Air Force

From: Giuliano 'Jimmy' Marinkovicc - AGETI <9a4ag@clarc.org>
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 05:36:59 -0500
Fwd Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 09:33:38 -0400
Subject: Faxed Questions To The Croatian Air Force


Dear Researchers and List members.

Recently, I have produced big UFO radio show here in Croatia
about one case above Pag Island from 1997. During that incident
the Unidentified Flying Phenomena has been seen by citizens from
Pag and also by police officers. As a radio producer of UFO
shows for few years here in Croatia, I have concluded that this
time, the special show about Pag incident will be a great
opportunity to contact Croatian Air Force and to ask for their
official view about that case and UFOs in general. Even more, I
have send them a request about COMETA, French UFO study, asking
them to take official stand on COMETA. In the text below, I am
presenting a FAX message that I sent them on 6 September 2000.
After that you will find their official answer:


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Receiver:
MINISTRY OF DEFENCE
REPUBLIC CROATIA
Office of Public Relations
01/4551-516


REQUEST FOR OFFICIAL STAND OF THE HRZ (CROATIAN AIR
FORCE)


Dear Title,

Boris Gnjidicc and I [Giuliano Marinkovicc] are contacting you
because "Natporuchnik" [rank under Captain] Franjo Ivicc from
the Public Relations unit of the Croatian Air Force has directed
us, to your office.

Our radio station Donat-Fm has decided to dedicate a show about
Strange Phenomena in the Sky [UFP - Unidentified Flying
Phenomena by classification] on the 12 September 2000. This show
will be based on the UFP sighted and witnessed above Pag Island
on the 13 December 1997, by various citizens of the Island and
also by Police officers from the 7th Police Station.

We are hoping with this request, to receive your help and
co-operation so we may better present the whole controversy
surrounding this case, plus the chronology of events, to our
listeners and the general public.

So, we need to know what the official stand of the Croatian Air
Force is on the points below:

1. Does the Croatian Air Force have any knowledge, of reports
from their Air monitoring/coordinating systems, concerning big
formations or/and groups of airplanes (4- 6) on the 13 December
from 19:00 hours to 22:00 hours? The Region we are particularly
interested in, is the widest area of sea between Pag Island and
the city of Zadar. If the Croatian Air Force does not have any
knowlegde, concerning a fly over by groups of airplanes, over
that particular area, does it then have knowledge of any type of
airplane, object or phenomena monitored at that time and place?

2. What is the official stand of the Croatian Air Force towards
the UFO phenomena [Unidentified Flying Objects] and the comments
made, on the historical fact, that research of this phenomena
has been going on in military departments of many countries from
the 1950's, for example the most famous project, is the American
Air Force - BLUE BOOK? Does the Croatian Air Force have any
knowledge of similar projects which may have been active in the
previous administration inside JNA ? [JNA = Yugoslav National
Army - Croatia had been until 1990 part of Yugoslavia, after
that gained her independence and now has its own army and air
force].

3. Does the Croatian Air Force have an official stand on the
recently released study by the French Army - COMETA Report -
July 1999, which has been signed by French Generals, high
ranking officers of the French Army together with scientists. In
this study the team concluded that the UFO is a real phenomena
and that the best hypothesis to explain it, is the one which
refers towards extra-terrestrial craft and their physical
impact, on the surroundings and military equipment (radar
detections, power cuts, traces on the ground etc)? A large
article about this study has been recently published in the
American mainstream paper THE BOSTON GLOBE where journalist
Leslie Kean writes about military implications of this study.
The wider version of this article has been published also in the
Irish Independent newspaper, and the same can be found at
Internet Web address which is:

http://www.independent.ie/2000/178/d14c.shtml

Our wish is to have a telephone guest, possibly from the
Croatian Air Force - Public Relations office who is able to
respond to and give answers to these questions. The timeline for
when our show will be broadcasted is 12 September 2000, approx.
22 hours. We are able to set up a telephone conversation at a
time you find convienient, record it and re-broadcast later
during our show. If that is unsuitable or is not possible,
please inform us, so we could agree on the reception of your
official stand via a FAX message (in written form).

Please reply to this request by Monday 11 September 2000 so in
that way we can generate the structure of our show in real time.
If you are unable answer at this request, then please send us
your official answer and reasons why it is not possible.

Please contact us at the following numbers:

Telephone: 023/313-522
023/313-213
Fax: 023/313-904

Ask for Boris Gnjidicc or Giuliano Marinkovicc. If we are not
availalbe at the moment, please leave a message or you can try
to contact us at the home number of Giuliano Marinkovicc which
is 023/430-970)

Best regards:

Giuliano Marinkovicc
Show Editor
Radio station DONAT-FM
Obala Kneza Branimira,12
23000 Zadar
Croatia

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On Monday, 11 September 2000, we received the following FAX
message from the Croatian Air Force for our radio station:

11/09 '00 13:21 385 48 61 151 Z HRZ1PZO OOJ1I 001

[COAT OF ARMS]
REPUBLIC CROATIA
MINISTRY OF DEFENCE
ZAGREB

HEADQUATERS OF THE CROATIAN AIR FORCE AND AIR DEFENCE

Zagreb, September 11. 2000.
Radio "DONAT-FM"
Zadar

Dear Mr Marinkovicc

We are honoured with your request concerning our participation
in your show, on strange phenomena in the sky. Unfortunately it
is not possible to insure a personal appearance, of a Public
Relations representative of the Croatian Air Force and Air
Defence to speak in your show, but we are hoping that this memo
will answer all your questions in a satisfactory way.

With a wish to answer your questions constructively, we are
stating this: that the role and mission of the Headquarters and
formations of Croatian Air Force and Air Defence, have precise
definitions and they are constructed from control (monitoring)
of the air space above and near state teritory of the Republic
of Croatia. In that sense, every un-announced flight or
appearance of any object in the air space over the Republic of
Croatia is the subject of interest and certain actions of the
Croatian Air Force units. So, Croatian Air Force interests are
based only on those "air" phenomena which can be detected with
our systems of monitoring and if the nature of them is
representating threat to our air space, there are powers and
measures which the Air Force uses for that kind of threat.

Croatian Air Force's job is also composed of: keeping in fight
readiness, extinguishing fires, transport of the sick, injured
people and re-organization. There is not a single person or body
which has been set up with the mission to research sky phenomena
on the theory- scientific level.

We understand your curiousity about our knowledge and
operational possibilities and the radar system characteristic of
formations from Air Monitoring and Coordinations, but there are
interests from someone else too, so please accept our decision
why we are unable to answer those kind of questions.

In the ten years that we have existed, pilots and flyings crews
have not reported encounters or sightings of the sky phenomena
[UFO] and if it was to ever happen there is no reason why the
general public wouldn't know about it. When it was still the
Yugoslav Air Force, there were known cases when
fighters-intercepters had been scrambled at objects which had
been spotted from ground observers, but later it was concluded,
that it was nothing more than clouds or meterological balloons
which are released in great numbers daily, into the atmosphere
world wide and because of the reflections from the light, sun
and altitude it is hard for the ground observers to judge
correctly, so those objects get a UFO classification.

We wish you success in your work! Regards,

[STAMP]
REPUBLIC CROATIA
HEADQUATERS OF THE CROATIAN AIR FORCE AND AIR DEFENCE
ZAGREB
[COAT OF ARMS]
1 star General
JOSIP VULETICC

========================================================

My comments on the FAX from Croatian Air Force:

Boris Gnjidicc and myself have been aware of how hard it was for
them to directly answer our three concrete points. Being an
ex-Air Force community person myself, who later in his civilian
life has conducted UFO investigations with pilots and radio air
controllers, I can raise many remarks about the official stand
taken in the last part of their FAX. Although there was
scrambling of airplanes-interceptors on wrong identified light
phenomena, there was also military incidents with something
"unusual". These cases are astonishing, from radar detections,
to cat and mouse games with something "STRANGE".

Concerning an official answer on the the French COMETA report,
the question was obviously ignored but looking at that question
from their internal point of view, we understood how hard it was
for them to give any concrete answer.

I would like to take this opportunity to encourage other
investigators, to make the effort to ask, about the official
stand on COMETA and this phenomena from their respective Air
Force's and other institutions inside their country. Together,
we can make this issue very very important.

Please send me your findings at my e-mail 9a4ag@clarc.org
or contact me directly at my ICQ which is 67412597.

Keep up with your research!

Best regards:

===><===><===><===><===><===><===><===><===><===><===><=
Giuliano Marinkovicc
(Croatia, Europe, ICQ UIN #67412597, tel:+385-23-430-970)
UFO News Co-ordinator
The UFO Enigma on Destination: Space -
www.destinationspace.net
===><===><===><===><===><===><===><===><===><===><===><=


AGETI
Analytical Group for Extra-Terrestrial Information
http://www.clarc.org/~9a4ag
http://www.onelist.com/group/ageti

(PRWEB) - OTTAWA, CANADA (PRWEB) 24 november, 2005 –

Bivši Ministar za Odbranu Kanade i pomoćnik premijera za vrijeme Pierra
Trudeau-a, udružio je tri nevladine organizacije da bi se postavilo pitanje Parlamentu Kanade u vezi održavanja javne istrage na temu egzopolitike – tj. odnosa sa „ET“ (vanzemaljcima, prim.prev.).

Pod “ETs,” Mr. Hellyer i te organizacije podrazumijevaju etičke i napredne vanzemaljske civilizacije koje bi mogle sada da posjećuju planetu Zemlju.
U svom zapanjujućem govoru na Univerzitetu u Torontu, 25 septembra 2005, koji je privukao pažnju i zvaničnih dnevnih novina i magazina, Paul Hellyer,
kanadski Ministar za Odbranu od 1963-67, javno je izjavio: “NLO-i su stvarni isto kao što su stvarni avioni koji lete nad vašom glavom”.

Mr. Hellyer je takođe rekao, "Ja sam veoma zabrinut u vezi mogućih konsekvenci u slučaju izbijanja jednog intergalaktičkog rata, tako da sam morao nešto o tome da kažem."
Hellyer je otkrio, "Tajnovitost koja je uvedena u sve one stvari u vezi sa incidentom u Rozvelu, bila je nevjerovatna. Stepen tajnosti je bio označen kao “iznad najveće tajne”, tako da velika većina američkih zvaničnika i političara, osim onih ministara za odbranu, nije bila u to upetljana."

Hellyer je upozorio, "Armija SAD-a priprema oružja koja se mogu koristiti protiv vanzemaljaca, i oni nas mogu uvuću u jedan intergalaktički rat da nas prethodno ne upozore. On nadalje tvrdi: “Bush-ova administracija je dozvolila vojsci da izgrade jednu isturenu bazu na mjesecu, što će im omogućiti da prate saobraćaj posjetioca iz svemira i pucaju na njih kad god misle da je to shodno.”

(…)

Nešto više na donjem linku...


http://news.yahoo.com/s/prweb/20051124/ ... eb314382_1


Pozdrav!

Zanimljiv ovaj lik iz Kanade.Za to sto je rekao mogu da ga smaknu...Sreca njegova sto je jos uvek ziv:)

[quote="galaksijaHellyer je upozorio, "Armija SAD-a priprema oružja koja se mogu koristiti protiv vanzemaljaca, i oni nas mogu uvuću u jedan intergalaktički rat da nas prethodno ne upozore. On nadalje tvrdi: “Bush-ova administracija je dozvolila vojsci da izgrade jednu isturenu bazu na mjesecu, što će im omogućiti da prate saobraćaj posjetioca iz svemira i pucaju na njih kad god misle da je to shodno.”

(…)

[/quote]
Hmm. Lik nije svjestan u sta se uvalio. Sada sigurno nece postati clan Trilateralne Komisije ili necega slicnog. Ali treba mu priznati na hrabrosti. Ma vidi ti njih molim te, oni bi da nas uvuku u intergalakticki rat....Smradovi . Kada bi barem bilo vise ljudi na visokim pozicijama kao sto je Hellyer...

Pa mozda se i jednom nadje vise tih ali iza 7gora,7mora,7suma...

WOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWW!!!!!

Vjerovatno takvih politicara ima vise, samo se plase da javno iskazu svoje misljenje.