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Jack kako mislis isprobati??


Pa piše ovdje - piše ondje... ajmo SAZNAT. To sam mislio. Jel je informacija ili dezinformacija.

Ako netko ima rak i želi ga izlječiti ovom metodom... da napiše kako djeluje. To je najbolji primjer. Mislim... kritičko razmišljanje, provjera, podjela doživljaja s ostalima... tako se uči. Bubanje iz knjiga obično nema mnogo svrhe.

Ma nema veze... vidim da su mnogi na forumu napeti... dajte ljudi, malo pozitive i razmišljanja. Ponekad kroz nas sve idu napadi. Nitko nije imun na to.

Dakle - pamet u glavu.

Hajde, sad dalje s B17...

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Evo prijavljam se.
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Znaci ima neshto shto sam shvatila dok sam citala prvi tekst.

Znaci:
kad je kod mene pocelo da se razvijaju maligne celije, ja sam pocela uzimati mix od sjemena lan, pumkin(ovu rec nikad nisam naucila :)), suncokret, u susam, u kombinaciju malteksa koji je bogat sa B vitamine skoro sve vrste.(LAN u najvecu kolicinu a vidim da je on nabrojan u produkte koje sadrze B17). Dalje pila sam Zelenu Magmu koja ovde se navodi da je bogata vitamina B17,neko je to naveo u postova mada na deklaraciju zelene magme ne pishe nigde da ima B 17, a sudeci po raspravije mozda i ne sme da stoji da ima?!?! :?: :!:

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IZVORI VITAMINA B17

Najveća koncentracija B17 vitamina je u gorkim bademima, u košticama jabuke, kajsije, nektarine, kruške, šljive, trešnje, limuna, kupina, malina, jagoda itd. Nalazi se u braon pirinču, prosu, lanu i mnogim tropskim biljkama, posebno tropskoj kasavi. Ima ga u skoro svim košticama iz familije ruža.


Ajmo po red.

Gorclivih badema sam skoro godinu(a mozda i vishe ) jela svaki dan po 10 pred brojsov sok od korenasto povrce. znaci opet B 17 .
Od Shlive jela sam godinu i po UMEBOSHI koja je najzdravija a jela sam i kost, po 2 na dan. Znaci opet B 17
Brao pirinac mi je bio u jelu 2 puta nedeljno, a proso bar jednom nedeljno.

Znaci to je puno B-17. danas sam bila po prodavnice zdrave hrane, pricala sa neke prijateljice po drugi foruma i svi su culi ali nisu videli izoliranog. Pricala sam i sa mamom (ona je farmaceut i ima apoteku) ali nije ogranicena u razmishljanju posle sve shto se meni djesilo shto spored nje je prilicno SF :):):) meni je to slatko ali ne trudim se da je menjam.. gde sam bila :) a da ona probace da ga nabavi, ali neznam kako :):) valjda ima veza. pa videcemo.

Evo ja cu od sutra da pojedem onaj kup od koshtiju od Kajsije i to gorclive. odredicu neka doza recimo 15 na dan (ako ima neko drug predlog slobodno neka iznese) .

Ja nemam vishe malignih celija vec blago promenjene. Znaci kod nas se kaze lezija neznam strucni naziv, ali i to cu da pitam, nisam potpuno zdrava ali mogu uradite uporedbu pa videcemo. Ako neko ima bolju ideju neka kaze :)

Ja cu da uradim josh jedan kontrolan test za neki 3 meseca pa imacemo pokonkrenu informaciju...

pozdrav

Ako ima neko neku drugu ideju, izvolte (ali glejte da me ne ubije :):):) shalim se...) :)
pozdrav.

p.s Vec sam pricala da sam svoje terapije birala strogo intuitivno. Kad sam prvi put otvorila, koj mi je preporuciju moj decko (on cita www.galaksija.com od kad postoi) od sve teme , najsnazni uticaj intuitivni kod mene je predizvakala tema o koloidno srebro i bash B17. Eto, za mene to je mozda i najbitnije, mozda nije informacija iz konkretni kreditabilan izvor, ali za mene je najvazno. Eto mislila sam da treba da to podelim s vama.
Jos jedan put pozdrav


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Meya, ti si znaci zivuci primjer da B17 djeluje! :D
Ovo je prekrasno, HVALA Ti sto si Tvoja iskustva podijelila sa svima nama.

pumpkin se kaze tikva ili bundeva


pozdrav :)


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evo vam pa citajte malo!



http://www.hoolokahi.net/herbalmed.html :!: :!: :!: :idea: :idea:


he war on cancer that began in 1970 is still far from over. Despite 30 billion dollars spent on research and treatment, the mortality rate for cancer is 6% higher in 1997 than it was in 1970 (Bailar III and Gornik, 1997). This has frustrated both patients and physicians, and has led some patients to actively seek out non-Western healing practices. One of the most popular is herbal medicine. In 1996 US herbs sales were 12 billion dollars with 63% of the population expecting to make herbs a part of their daily regimen within 5 years (Landers, 1996). The popularity of the use of herbs to treat cancer poses a unique difficulty to health care professionals....

VISE NA SAJTU


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Onda nece biti teshko da upamtim, i u Makedonii je TIKVA.

:):):)

Evo danas sam pojela prve 15 kosti od kajsije.Veoma su gorclivi, ali videcemo..
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Ne treba bazirati misljenje o nekoj alternativnoj metodi na osnovu sto se na sve strane pojavile teorije protiv i argumenti da to nije dobro jer naravno da farmaceutska industrija ima svoje vojnike koji moraju da brane zidine njihovog dvorca.
Svaka hrana ako se uzima u pretjeranim kolicinama moze izazvati negativne posljedice pa ne treba navaliti sad na kostice kao jedinu hranu ali se isto istrazivanja i djelovanje komponenti u tim kosticama ne moze bazirati na ekstremnoj kolicini uzimanja kostica.
Sto bi bilo kad bi se neka od terapija farmaceutske industrije predozirala?


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Moja majka je na Brojsovoj dijeti,ja vec mesec dana pokushavam da nadjem gde da kupim chist b-17 poshto ne sme da jede...ali bezuspeshno.
Samo zelim da prokomentarishem banovanje pchelice,ne direktno nego kao sukob mishljenja.
Ja i sad imam problema sa doktorima koji misle da nisam normalna shto mamu lechim po Brojsu i shto se tiche b-17,na elitesecurity forumu sam imala zeshcu raspravu jer su se javili buduci doktori koji su mi kontrirali sve vreme,gde sam ja poludela i na kraju odustala od svega zato shto tema stalno bezi na off-topic!
Mislim, boli me uvo za priche sa zaverama zato shto je ceo svet jedna velika zavera,tako da ne ispadne sad da me je sama pricha kao zavera navela na verovanje u delotvornost ovog vitamina.Nego,kad malo udjete dublje u celu prichu o farmaciji i medicini,na kraju se stvarno ispostavlja da je ona jedna velika laz.
Mrzi me svuda da ponavljam primere pa cu vam postaviti 3 pitanja ali realno razmislite,koliko lekova LECHI bolesti a ne samo simptome?
Zashto je ishrana toliko bitna i zashto sa njom mogu da se leche i veoma teshke bolesti!?
Kako to, da je toliko para ulozeno u istrazivanja a napretka nema?
Chinjenica da se sve vrti oko para je ta da se onima gore vishe isplati da mi budemo bolesni i dajemo shto vishe para na lekove nego da nam daju jedan lek koji cemo skupo platiti i biti zdravi!
E pa,povezite sad to sve sa b-17 i time da on ne koshta puno,ne moze da se nadje i tamo gde ga ima prodaje se kao otrovan!

Neka me neko ispravi ako greshim,mada mislim da josh uvek postoje open-mind ljudi koji nisu isprani!


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Chinjenica da se sve vrti oko para je ta da se onima gore vishe isplati da mi budemo bolesni i dajemo shto vishe para na lekove nego da nam daju jedan lek koji cemo skupo platiti i biti zdravi!
E pa,povezite sad to sve sa b-17 i time da on ne koshta puno,ne moze da se nadje i tamo gde ga ima prodaje se kao otrovan!


Verujem da je ovo sustina ovog topica. Ja sam gotovo siguran sam da se sva "ozbiljana" naucna istrazivanja na ovu temu rade na principu trazenja dokaza protiv pa cak i tamo gde je manje-vise jasno da takvog dokaza nema, jer njihov cilj jeste prikrivanje istine a ne njeno utvrdjivanje. I naravno sve u cilju ostvarivanja profita/kontrole.

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Apsolutno nemam nikakvih dvojbi oko toga dali je medicina,samo medicinska nauka-univerziteti i dr.jedan veliki biznis..evo ovako;neka svako ko ima dvojbi potrazi na internetu cime se lece najbogatili ljudi na svetu-Rokfelerova familija,Rokshild,bush,ka kraljevska porodica Engleske,pa Opra Vinger,Tina Tarner,Bekam, iostali iz sveta slavnih...pa i ja bih da se lecim na isti nacin kao bogati i slavni pa makar bio u krivu...

LECE SE ISKLJUCIVO SREBROM I HOMEOPETIJOM

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ps.i DA NE BUDEM OF TOPIC -NARAVNO I SVE ZDRAVE HRANE KAO I KOSCICE ISTIH

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Da li sam ja to dobro shvatila da istrazivanja nisu radjena od 80-tih???


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neka svako ko ima dvojbi potrazi na internetu cime se lece najbogatili ljudi na svetu-Rokfelerova familija,Rokshild,bush,ka kraljevska porodica Engleske,pa Opra Vinger,Tina Tarner,Bekam, iostali iz sveta slavnih...pa i ja bih da se lecim na isti nacin kao bogati i slavni pa makar bio u krivu...


al nam ipak napravise pokaznu vezbu sa Kylie Minogue ?
sa sve hirurgijom, zracenjem i hemoterapijom :roll:


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Minogue ocigledno nije jedna od njih i zato se njeno tretiranje toliko i publicira.Zelim joj sve najbolje na zdravstvenom i profesionalnom planu,i nadam se da ce odusevljavati publiku jos duuuugo.

Ja verujem da se na forumu pretjeruje u vishe navrata sa strane onih koji zapale svoju mashtu MEDJUTIM : Koliko god zapalili svoju mastu oni i mi nikad,ama bash nikad necemo biti ni priblizno blizu fantasticnoj istini o svemu,bilo o tajnama zivota na zemlji ili univerzumu.

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Da nemamo mashte verovatno ovaj forum ne bi ni postojao a i verovatno bi bili kao i velika vecina. Naravno da mi svi mozda nikad necemo saznati pravu istinu,ali vecinu stvari koje nam "oni" prezentuju i jesu za onu vecinu!
Ja verujem da hemoterapija i zrachenje mogu da pomognu u pochetnom stadijumu,ali nazalost se obichno rak otkriva kad je zadnji stadijum! E tad teshko da hemoterapija i zrachenje mogu neshto da urade!!!


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Da li neko zna gde se u SCG moze kupiti "Laetril"


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A zasto moras kupiti leatril kad znas da je napravljen od koscica voca,od sveze jabuke ne moze biti bolji...

Shta drugi misle???? :?:

Ja uvek verujem da majka priroda najbolje zna to skuhati u najboli balans koji idu sa i uz leatril

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Pa meni isto treba zato shto mi je majka na Brojsovoj-ne jede 42 dana!
Ja sam za mesec dana prekopala sve zivo i pitala ljude,dobila sam jedino podatak-ne znam koliko je tachan-da ga ima u Madjarskoj u jednom malom gradicu,a za Ameriku i Kanadu sam 100% sigurna ali neko treba da ga donese poshto je u SCG zabranjen uvoz!


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Evo nešto na engleskom u vezi ovog... neznam, nisam stručnjak u ovom području... može netko prevesti ako hoće...

Biol. Pharm. Bull. 26(2) 271—273 (2003)

Anti-tumor Promoting Effect of Glycosides from Prunus persica Seeds

Toshiyuki FUKUDA,a Hideyuki ITO,a Teruo MUKAINAKA,b Harukuni TOKUDA,b Hoyoku NISHINO,b and
Takashi YOSHIDA*,a
a Faculty of Pharmaceutical Sciences, Okayama University; Tsushima, Okayama 700–8530, Japan: bKyoto Prefectural
University of Medicine; Kamigyo-ku, Kyoto 602–0841, Japan. Received August 26, 2002; accepted November 15, 2002

Four minor components, along with the major cyanogenic glycosides, amygdalin and prunasin, were isolated
from Prunus persica seeds (Persicae Semen; Tounin), and characterized as mandelic acid glycosides ( b-gentiobioside
and b-D-glucoside) and benzyl alcohol glycosides ( b-gentiobioside and b-D-glucoside). The anti-tumor
promoting activity of these compounds was examined in both in vitro and in vivo assays. All of the compounds
significantly inhibited the Epstein-Barr virus early antigen activation induced by tumor promoter. In addition,
they produced a delay of two-stage carcinogenesis on mouse skin that was comparable in potency to (2)-epigallocatechin
gallate from green tea. Structure–activity relationships indicated that a substituent at the benzylic position
with glycosidic linkage affected the in vitro and in vivo activities with an order of enhancing potency,
CN,COOH,H.

Key words: Prunus persica seed; cancer chemoprevention; amygdalin-related glycoside; benzyl b-gentiobioside; EBV-EA induction;
mouse skin two-stage carcinogenesis

Prunus persica (L.) BATSCH (Rosaceae) seeds are well
known as a traditional medicine (Persicae Semen; Tounin,
Taoren in Chinese) in Japan, China, and other Asian countries.
They are frequently used as an ingredient in a variety of
Kampo (Chinese medicine) prescriptions, particularly those
used to treat women’s diseases. The chemical constituents of
the herb include the cyanogenic glycosides, amygdalin (1)
and prunasin (2) as major components,1) along with glycerides,
2,3) sterols,4) and emulsin.5) Amygdalin is also abundant
in the seeds of bitter almond and apricots of the Prunus
genus, and other rosaceous plants.6) Amygdalin (1), sometimes
referred to as vitamin B17, and nitriloside was previously
thought to be synonymous with laetrile, a drug used to
treat cancer.7) However, studies now show that laetrile, an
acronym for laevorotatory nitriloside, is ineffective as a cancer
treatment, and is structurally different from amygdalin.8)
Thus, the antitumor effect of 1 remains ambiguous. In our
phytochemical investigation of Persicae Semen, we isolated
and characterized four minor components that were structurally
related to 1 and 2, and examined their function and
antitumor properties. Here we report the inhibitory effect of
purified constituents from Persicae Semen on the induction
of Epstein-Barr virus early antigen (EBV-EA) in Raji cells,9)
a convenient in vitro assay for assessing anti-tumor promoting
activity. In vivo anti-tumor promoting activity was also
evaluated using two-stage mouse skin carcinogenesis test.
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MATERIALS AND METHODS
Isolation and Characterization of Minor Constituents
Persicae Semen (500 g), purchased from Uchida Wakanyaku
Co., Ltd., Tokyo, was homogenized in 70% aqueous ethanol
(5 l). The concentrated homogenate was extracted with nhexane
(3 l), ethyl acetate (3 l) and 1-butanol (3 l), successively.
The 1-butanol extract (5.0 g) was chromatographed
over a porous polymer gel, Diaion HP-20 (Mitsubishi Chemical
Co.) with H2O, 10% ethyl alcohol (EtOH), 20% EtOH
and EtOH. Eluates with 10% EtOH (0.98 g) and 20% EtOH
(0.48 g) were used for preparative HPLC [Waters m-Bondasphere
C-18 (5 m) 100 Å, i.d. 193150 mm; CH3CN–H2O
(13 : 87, 10 : 90 or 5 : 95) or MeOH–H2O (15 : 85)], and six
constituents, 1 (671.8 mg), 2 (173.7 mg), 3 (32.5 mg), 4 (37.0
mg), 5 (74.4 mg), and 6 (13.8 mg), were isolated. Four minor
constituents (3 to 6) were identified by comparison of their
physicochemical data with those reported in the literature
as amygdalinic acid (mandelic acid b-gentiobioside) (3),8)
[high resolution (HR)-MS: m/z 499.1451 (M1Na)1: Calcd
for C20H28O131Na, 499.1428, [ a]D 2108° (c50.6, MeOH)],
mandelic acid b-D-glucopyranoside (4)10) [HR-MS: m/z
337.0899 (M1Na)1: Calcd for C14H18O81Na, 337.0899,
[ a]D 283° (c50.5, C5H5N)], benzyl b-gentiobioside (5)11)
[HR-MS: m/z 450.1932 (M1NH4)1: Calcd for C19H28O111
NH4, 450.1975, [ a]D 258.3° (c51.0, MeOH)], and benzyl
b-D-glucopyranoside (6)12) [HR-MS: m/z 288.1475 (M1
NH4)1: Calcd for C13H18O61NH4, 288.1447. [ a]D 256° (c5
0.5, MeOH)], respectively.
Assay for Inhibition of EBV-EA Activation EBV-EApositive
serum from a patient with nasopharyngeal carcinoma
(NPC) was a gift from the Department of Biochemistry,
Oita Medical University. EBV genome-carrying lymphoblastoid
cells (Raji cells derived from Burkitt’s lymphoma)
were cultured in 10% fetal bovine serum (FBS) in
RPMI-1640 medium (Nissui). Spontaneous EBV-EA activation
in our Raji cell subline was less than 0.1%. Inhibition of
EBV-EA activation was assayed using Raji cells (virus nonproducer
type) as described previously.9,12) Indicator cells
(Raji, 13106 cells/ml) were incubated at 37 °C for 48 in 1ml
of medium containing 0.5 M n-butyric acid [8 ml, 4 mmol (coinducer)]
and 12-O-tetradecanoylphorbol 13-acetate (TPA)
[32 pmol520 ng in dimethylsulfoxide (DMSO), 2 ml] as an
inducer, with or without various amounts of test compounds
in 5 ml DMSO. Smears were made from the cell suspension,
and activated cells that were stained by EBV-EA-positive
serum from the NPC patient were detected by an indirect immunofluorescence
technique.14) At least 500 cells were
counted in each assay, and the number of stained (positive)
cells was recorded. Triplicate assays were performed for each
compound. The average EBV-EA induction of the test compounds
was expressed as the relative ratio to the control experiment
(100%), which was carried out with only n-butyric
acid (4 mmol) plus TPA (32 pmol). EBV-EA induction was
typically around 35%. The viability of treated Raji cells was
assayed by Trypan Blue staining.
Assay for Anti-tumor Promoting Activity in Two-Stage
Mouse Skin Carcinogenesis Assays were performed according
to a previously described method.15) Specific
pathogen-free female ICR mice (six weeks old) were obtained
from Japan SLC Inc., Shizuoka, Japan. The animals
were housed, five per polycarbonate cage, in a temperaturecontrolled
room at 2462 °C and given food and water ad libitum
throughout the experiment. Animals were divided into
three experimental groups containing 15 mice each. The
back of each mouse was shaved with surgical clippers, and
the mice were treated topically with 7,12-dimethylbenz[a]anthracene
(DMBA) (100 mg, 390 nmol) in acetone (0.1 ml) as
an initiating treatment. One week after initiation, papilloma
formation was promoted twice weekly by applying 12-Otetradecanoylphorbol-
13-acetate (TPA) (1 mg, 1.7 nmol) in
acetone (0.1 ml) to the skin. One hour before each treatment,
mice were treated with the samples (85 nmol) in acetone
(0.1 ml). Papilloma incidence was examined weekly over a
period of 20 weeks.
RESULTS AND DISCUSSION
Besides the major cyanogenetic glycosides 1 and 2, we
found four minor glycosides in Persicae Semen, characterized
as amygdalinic acid (3), mandelic acid b-D-glucopyranoside
(4), benzyl b-gentiobioside (5) and benzyl b-D-glucopyranoside
(6). Of these compounds, 6 has also been
found in P. mume fruits, and was reported to have hypotensive
diuretic properties.16) In addition, compound 3 was reported
to have anticancer property upon oral administration
to mice having inoculated tumor cells (AC755).17) On the
other hand, Okuyama et al. reported that Kampo prescriptions
such as Toukaku-johki-to (Taone-chengqi Tang) including
Persicae Semen as an ingredient, which are employed
for an Oketsu syndrome (stagnation of blood circulations),
showed a relatively strong anti-tumor promoting effect.18)
These findings may imply that Persicae semen contributes to
the effect. As a part of investigation to develop the function
of the Persicae Semen constituents, we examined their suppressive
effects on the tumor-promotion stage during multistage
chemical carcinogenesis.
The inhibitory TPA-induced EBV-EA activation test in
Raji cells was examined first for 1—6, and the results are
shown in Table 1. Amygdalinic acid (3), benzyl b-gentiobioside
(5) and benzyl b-D-glucopyranoside (6) produced remarkable
inhibition (65—80%) of EBV-EA activation at a
concentration of 500 mol ratio/TPA, without exhibiting cytotoxicity.
Their potencies were either comparable to, or much
stronger than the positive control, (2)-epigallocatechin gallate
(EGCG), which is a well known anti-tumor promoting
polyphenol from green tea.19) In both the gentiobiosides and
the glucosides, the inhibitory effect was dependent on a substitutent
at the benzylic position of the aglycone with an
order of potency, CN,COOH,H. Gentiobiosides showed
stronger activity than the glucoside series with the same substituent,
i.e., 1.2, 3.4, and 5.6.
The isolated compounds were then subjected to an in vivo
two-stage mouse skin carcinogenesis assay using DMBA as
an initiator and TPA as a promoter. The results are shown in
Fig. 1. The control animals exhibited a 100% papilloma incidence
10 weeks after initiation. However, treatment with the
tested compounds (85 nmol), along with initiator and promoter,
reduced the percentage of tumor-bearing mice by between
13.3—33.3% after 10 weeks (Fig. 1A). Structure–activity
relationships in this assay were similar to those in the
in vitro EBV-EA activation assay, although the in vivo test for
6 could not be examined owing to insufficient amounts available.
Thus, benzyl b-gentiobioside (5) had the most potent
activity, reducing the incidence to 86.6% over 20 weeks. In
the treated animals, the average number of papillomas per
mouse was reduced to about 44.0% to 59.3% relative to the
control group by week 20 (Fig. 1B). It is noteworthy that the
potency of 5 and 3 was almost comparable to that of EGCG
at the same concentration (85 nmol) (Fig. 1).
Chemoprevention is an efficient strategy for cancer prevention,
and extensive efforts have been made in recent years
to find natural and synthetic products that prevent the tumorpromoting
stage, which is a long and reversible process during
multi-stage carcinogenesis in humans. In the present
study, some structurally simple glycosides were found to
have significant anti-tumor promoting activity. It should be
noted that amygdalinic acid (3) might be effective agent not
only for inhibition of the growth of tumors (AC755) inoculated
in mice7) but also for chemoprevention of cancer. These
compounds, as well as the Persicae Semen extract, would be
a promising source of possible cancer chemopreventive
agents, and valuable to be further studied.
Acknowledgement This work was supported by grants
from the Ministry of Education, Science, Sports and Culture
of Japan and also in part by a grant from the National Cancer
Institute (CA 17625).

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Prijavila sam se da probam unoshenje na zemjenke od kajsije.. T.j B-17...

Napisala sam shto sve sam uzimala, i sve je u svoj sastav sodrzalo B-17.. jla sam svaki drugi dan po 10 kostice od kajsije, pila zelena magma i uzimala miks sjemenka za kashiku Malteksa....


Prew nedelju dana bila sam na kontrolu i stanje je MALO pogorshano... :shock:

Znaci nije opet rak, nije metastazirano kao pre... Nego na jedno mesto gde josh nije bilo sve ocischeno , znaci postojale su promenjene celije odregenog statusa.. sad je stepen vishe t.j gore...

nije strasno jako malo se razlikuju ali eto...

Iskreno smartam da nije od B-17 zato shto kad sam vracala stadiume polako znaci od karcinom pa na precancerogeno stanje ja sam sve ovo pila bez koshtice od kajsije samo....

Ali eto mislila sam da treba da znate...

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Meya,
da li ti se mozda u tom periodu izmedju posljednjih dviju kontrola dogadjalo nesto negativno u zivotu? Pa je mozda malko to utjecalo... U svakom slucaju to je tek privremena smetnja...;)


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