Cini se da je nekadasnji kandidat za američkog predsjednika odradio fin komad posla i iznio poprilican broj ne-bas-simpaticnih podataka na temu globalnog zatopljenja i klime koja je sje...

Gledajuci ovo, stalno mi se vrzmalo po glavi propaganda ili ne, propaganda...ili? No, sad kada sam prespavala cijeli taj unutarnji dvoboj smatram da ovo nije nikakva propaganda. Cini mi se da je tatica Gore napravio odlican posao i plasirao odlican uvid u s(R)tanje stvari.

Nisam sigurna dokle ce potrajati ovo tupilo medju ljudima i ne shvacanje da ima puno bitnijih stvari od najnovijih modela mobitela, prejebenih Golfova sa turbo-seljačkim felgama i inim statusnim simbolima. Da u onom casu kad umre i posljednja ovca i presuši posljednji izvor, necemo moci pojesti svoje novce.

Pogledajte svakako i sami procijenite.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.inf ... e15801.htm

"Ignorance is a bliss" ...kakav danak u neiskustvu!

7.07.07


Eto, ostao sam frapiran, Al Gor kao da stize iz zvezdanih staza da poruci covecanstvu kako je vreme da spasemo planetu! Kakav cinizam! Potpuno je neverovatno kako su ti isti ljudi koji unistavaju Zemlju postali pobornici za njen spas. Gledam koncerte svuda po svetu, hipnotisana masa u ekstazi, zar se tako spasava svet, ili, da nisu vladari nesto gladni pa daj da onda iskoristimo sve sto mozemo, pa tako i taj poslednji izdisaj Zemljin. Neverovatno, kakva perfidna manipulacija, igra na emocije i skretanje sa dogadjaja koji svakog trenutka, sve krvaviji stizu i prestizu se u nebrojanim zrtvama ljudi koje ta politika ubija i ciji je gradjanin Gor!
Mi nista ne mozemo uciniti na taj nacin kako oni misle to da se uradi, potpuna suludost! To je kao kada bi ja otisao da skupljam plasticne flase iz reke a da nisu zaustavljene kanalizacione cevi i cevi iz industrijskih postojenja, potpuna ludost.
POTREBNA JE REVOLUCIJA!
Gospodo, zaustavite vasa postrojenja za pravljenje oruzja, industriju za ubijanje zivotinja, hemijska i bioloska postojenja, zaustavite automobile,
prljavu tehnologiju... Gospodo zaustavite vase smrti, ali ne, vi to ne zelite vec naprotiv, zalite jos vise da unesete strah i pometnju, zelite da prosirite meni za vase vladare!
Ljudska svest treba da se uzdigne, ljudi treba da se probude i onda kada bude kriticna masa, da se sve zaustavi, ali, bukvalno sve... a ne ovako, koncerti... dok nas zderu jos i da slusaju muziku, neverovatno...

Slobodna volja. Eto, zvezdane staze stizu nam u stvarnost, nasu, cemernu, jadnu, i umesto da nastane prava bitka, ljudi cupkaju u mestu i cekaju da ih drugi povedu, u jedan nastupajuci, veliki HAOS!!!

U potpunosti sam saglasna, Bojane. Rekla bih da je upravo nacin na koji deluje ks taj, da se zakaci za nesto autenticno i potpuno mu izvrne znacenje.

Istovremeno i najsigurniji nacin da se to nesto autenticno eliminise: predstavite se kao veci papa od pape i stavite se na celo na primer ekoloskog pokreta, uz odgovarajucu glasnu retoriku, istovremeno podrzavajuci i sprovodeci mere koje zagadjuju okolinu.

Ako mirovni pokret uspe da napravi neki maleni korak napred, razvije odgovarajucu argumentaciju, mozete biti sigurni da ce se uskoro povesti neki rat ne zbog teritorija ili lepih zena, vec zbog zastite ljudskih prava. Evolucija

Po njihovim delima cete ih prepoznati.

Jedino: rekla bih takodje da ce se, sve dok covecanstvo ne dosegne odgovarajući stepen svesti i ne stekne potrebno znanje o nekim fenomenima, po mom misljenju sve revolucije apsolutno zavrsavati kao u „zivotinjskoj farmi“, gde ce neki uspeti da uvere druge da su jednakiji od ostalih. Oni kojima nije vazna sloboda, vec kontrola nad drugim ljudskim bicima.

Pozdrav Arja

U redu je, mislio sam na revoluciju ljudske svesti, na taj nacin da svi postaju vodje svojim znanjem i percepcijom sveta u kome zive, to je ta kriticna masa koju ocekujemo. Ali, to prokleto ali, ne znaci da ce se covecanstvo promeniti, samo pojedinci, ako ih bude vise, i sve vise, mozemo ocekivati dramaticne promene koje se najavljuju, u suprotnom,
stara srpska poslovica- tri losa ubise Milosa.
Mi kao pojedinci se mozemo izmaknuti, cinimo sve u nasoj moci na strani Svetla da odrzimo balans i povratimo slobodu. Eto, ta borba je sustina svega, i kada vidis i kada zelis da ostanes na nogama, sam, nikada nemoj ocajavati pred sudbinom drugih koji su slepi, jednostavno to je njihov put.
Nama samo ostaje, kako smo izgradili i kako izgradjujemo svest da se pomaknemo dalje ka svesnosti koja nema granice. Ostale ceka drevna Zemlja dok ne nauce lekcije...

07.07.07
kakva simbolika! Zloupotrebili su i teznju malobrojnih da dostignu Sveprozimajuce Ujedinjenje sa Jednim!

U redu je, mislio sam na revoluciju ljudske svesti,

I ja mislim da je to plan na kome se vodi bitka (mada ne volim tu rec).
Ako su tacne teorije o Svemiru shvacenom kao hologram i teorija polja, onda je izgleda iluzija koja nas okruzuje jednostavno odraz nase (kolektivne) svesti. Poklapanje izmedju svesti posmatraca i stvarnosti koja ga okruzuje. Realnost je samo u tom smislu „realna“ ali je u tom smislu veoma realna. I mozda bi prvi korak bio da sirom otvorimo oci i vidimo tu emanaciju sopstvene svesti.

A onda napravimo poneki korak napred…

Veoma mi se dopalo ono sto je formica jednom prilikom rekao: “Tačno je da svako znanje jedinke odmah bude pridodato znanju cijele vrste. Pa kad se dostigne neki granični broj jedinki koje znaju nešto onda sva vrsta to prihvati kao lično znanje. To važi za sve vrste.“

Zato mislim da svako znanje i iskustvo koje pojedinacno steknemo, svaka licna pobeda koju dobijemo u toj bici za vise svesnosti, u centriranju one linije koja vodi izmedju ops-krajnosti, nema samo znacenje za nas licno, vec za kompletno nase morfo-polje.
Jer negde je svako za sebe sam samcijat i istovremeno, a paradoksalno, svi smo u istoj kasi.

E, sad, da li ce se stici do stotog majmuna.... Mozda je bolje ne anticipirati stvari.

Tako na to nekako gledam.

Dokumentarac ,hm....što reći.

Da je ovo napravio prije izbora sigurno bi bio izabran.

Ima djelove autobiografije, humorističan je ,lijepo mu svi plješću.
Nisam sigurna u spontanost tog aplauza ili je to samo režija.
Sve u svemu lijepe predstava.

Nameće se ogroman osjećaj krivnje širokim masama.
Poziva ljude na revoluciju,pobunu(fali ,,im" hrane je li)
Ljepo se on za ovu problematiku zanimao cijeli život i da je kojim slučajem izabran problem bi se lakše riješio,riješio bi problem od vrha -moš misliti.

Samo da vam ukažem na nešto ...

Nekih 90-tih godina sam radio nešto na temu globalnog zatopljenja i ekologije općenito , kopajući tako po literaturi , naletio sam na knjigu kojoj je autor Al Gore (ne sjećam se više naslova) to mi je bila naj jača knjiga koju sam pročitao na tu temu , autor me jednostavno oduševio ...


Godinama kasnije sam ponovo čuo za tog autora ,ali ovog puta je bio američki političar

Eto ja sam ga doživio drugačije od vas , prvo kao borca za zaštitu prirode i zemlje ,a kasnije kao političara , predsjedničkog kandidata itd...

Bio sam šokiran jednako kao i vi!

Pozdrav

Taj Al Gor je pobedio Busa na izborima! Setite se koja je to manipulacija i zavrzlama bila! Do poslednjeg glasa kao nije se znalo, ali ja vam tvrdim da se znalo, i to dobro koja je njegova uloga! Gospodo, ne zavaravajte se, americki predsednik moze biti samo od njihovog soja! Sve ostalo je manipulacija i to dobra, da neko igra tako dobro ulogu, laznu svaka mu cast! Mnogo energije je ulozeno da bi se ljudi drzali u oboru, makar to bili i stadioni na nekoliko dana. Jeli, samo da vas pitam, zar stvarno mislite da su mediji slobodni i da nisu izmanipulicani za tako jako delo kao sto je spas Zemlje! Dajte molim vas, sad smo u fazi kada se stoka pred klanje podvrgava postom da bi meso bilo meko a unutrasnji organi cisti od izmeta, (svest,metafora)! I kada se strahom udara kao maljem!

Za Arju

To je onda uzdizanje Sveokupne svesti Jednog kroz iskustva nas koji smo sekundarni stvoritelji. Mislim da smo dosli do tacke da ono sto se smatra pod “ILUZIJOM” da je to misljenje da smo “MI” individualne svesti a ne Jedna i Beskonacna Svest, jer u stvarnosti PraSvesti ona je samo Jedna. Mi smo iskustva Sveokupnosti koja otkriva sebe kroz postojanje u raznim nivoima beskonacnog, zato su i svi polariteti Jedno. Takozvano Ja nije nase licno vec ga gradimo u iluziji besmisla misleci da je nase… Mi mozemo da osetimo prazninu sa neopisivom punocom koja dolazi iz unutrasnje tisine, jer znajuci da smo svi jedno, uvek smo otvoreni za davanje ljubavi i znanja. To je povratak kuci kada se iskustvo ispunilo u naucenim lekcijama I kada je Sveokupnost dostigla nesto novo otkrivajuci samu sebe. Put iskustava I namera je Sveprozimajuci Stvoritelj u beskrajnim stvaranjima kao I u nepostojanju, sve je to u nama (tz). Opazaju drugih realnosti se manifestuju I kroz druga bica, tu povezanost sa svime osecam kao blagoslov, kao jednu ekstazu, (tu je seme ujedinjenja), a ipak tu je I neverovatna usamljenost, neka vrsta sete koja provejava u razotkrivenoj iluziji. Sveprozimajuca energija Sveokupnosti drzi sve vrste, iako su one razlicite po stepenu svesti I tela kao jedno, kao sebe. Nestaje te razlike izmedju etericnog i materijalnog jer isijava samo svest.
Arja, mi smo vec Jedno, uvek smo bili i bicemo...

A bitka, razlozi rec, bit...ka! Eto, sta nam simbolika jos govori...

Pozdrav.

mozda ovaj post ne pripada ovdje ali ja sam dobio neke nove uvide i perspektive iz ovog stiva sa jedne mail grupe

Chinese Secret Society
Challenges Illuminati
By Henry Makow PhD
6-30-7

A Chinese secret society with 6 million members, including 1.8 million Asian
gangsters and 100,000 professional assassins, have targeted Illuminati
members if they proceed with world depopulation plans, according to
Tokyo-based journalist Benjamin Fulford, 46.

They contacted Fulford, a Canadian ex pat, after he warned that the
Illuminati plan to reduce the Asian population to just 500 million by means
of race-specific biological weapons.

"The Illuminati, with the exception of Japan, is very much a white man's
game," Fulford says.

The secret society confirmed Fulford's information and asked him for advice.
He provided a list of 10,000 people associated with the Illuminati, mainly
members of the Bilderberg, CFR and Skull and Bones. Neo Cons are also high
priority targets.

"I have been promised that not a single person will die if they negotiate in
good faith," Fulford says.





Fulford is the former Asian Pacific bureau chief for Forbes magazine. He
quit in disgust when Forbes refused to run a damaging story about one of its
advertisers. Fulford has since written 15 books in Japanese. His most recent
is a scathing dissection of the 9-11 Hoax.

Fulford says Japan has been controlled in secret by the Illuminati through
the use of murder and bribery. Underground sources tell him the Americans
have murdered over 200 Japanese politicians and influential citizens since
the end of WW2.

Among the victims are former Prime Ministers Tanaka, Takeshita, Ohira and
Obuchi. They were all murdered using a special drug that induces strokes.
The Illuminati have been warned that the Chinese secret society will not
tolerate any more murders. It has also extended its protection to truth
seekers in the West.

ANCIENT SECRET SOCIETY

The Chinese Secret Society is called the "The Green and the Red Societies,"
Fulford says.

It "can be found in the history books. When the Manchus invaded China in
1644 the Ming army became an underground society aimed at overthrowing the
Qing (Manchu) and restoring the Ming. They supported the Boxer Rebellion but
were put down by imperialist powers. Later, with the help of overseas
Chinese and the Japanese imperial family, the society managed to overthrow
the last Emperor and install Sun Yat Sen in his place. They last appear in
the history books as the Green Gang and the Red Gang that fiercely fought
the Communists in Shanghai in the 1940's. They were defeated by the
Communists in 1949 and once again became an underground organization."

"Since 1949 they have steadily increased their influence throughout China
and the rest of the world. They have members at the very highest levels of
the Chinese government but they are by nature anti-establishment, and are
not an official Chinese government organization...

"The society has deep roots in Japan because of the link between Yakuza
crime gangs and the Japanese imperial family. The Japanese imperial family
are descended from 6th century Korean invaders. The original invaders had
trouble putting down the native Jomon peoples so they brought over a tough,
warlike minority people from the Asian mainland. These are the ancestors of
the Yakuza. They have historically been used for secret work and for jobs
like collecting taxes. When the Japanese decided to help overthrow the last
Chinese dynasty, they used the Yakuza as a go-between with the Chinese
secret society, many of whose members were gangsters. To this day many of
the senior leaders of this group are actually Japanese, not Chinese.

"It must be made very clear though that it is not a crime gang. Although
many members are Triad and Yakuza members, over 2/3 thirds of the members
are intellectuals such as university professors, researchers and government
bureaucrats. Each member earns their own living and membership in the
society is like belonging to an emergency fire brigade. Their book of rules
reads like a book of ethics filled with instructions to do things like help
the weak, fight injustice, help your comrades etc."

"They approached me and asked if they could help after I made a speech in
Tokyo describing the Bush regimes' use of race-specific biological weapons.
For me it was like a ghost from the history books appearing right in front
of me. At first I thought of silly things like having them play 911 truth
videos in Chinatowns around the world. However, then I remembered the scene
from the movie Kill Bill where Uma Thurman snatches out her opponent's eye.
I soon realized these people could save the world by directly attacking the
eye at the top of the pyramid on the one-dollar bill."

"Think about it, the Illuminati and their top servants have a total
membership of about 10,000 whereas the Chinese group has over 6 million
members. That is 600 to one odds. Furthermore, the 6 million have the names
and addresses of the 10,000 while the 10,000 do not know who or where the 6
million are."

FULFORD ON THE ILLUMINATI

"Below is a brief a summary of the intelligence I have received from sources
including: former Japanese Prime Ministers, senior Yakuza gangsters, senior
Japanese Freemasons, Western intelligence agencies etc.

"First the Illuminati are really inbred families of European and North
American traditional aristocracy and banking families. They control the
U.S., England, Europe (except for Scandinavian countries, Germany and Italy;
Italy kicked them out in the 1970's),Japan, Africa, Iran, Canada and Mexico.
They do not control China, Russia (Putin kicked them out for the first time
since 1917), India, South East Asia, South America, Cuba etc.

"Their goal is to create a world government. Until 2 years ago the plan was
the New World Order. That was outlined pretty clearly in the Project for a
New American Century. However, with the debacle in Iraq, the secret
government of the West changed to a new plan that is a world government
based on the EU. To do this they will sabotage the U.S. economy.

"However, there is a big schism in the secret government. Jay Rockefeller
and Philip Rothschild support one faction, the Global Warming Faction.
Opposing them is the War on Terrorism Faction supported by David Rockefeller
and the JP Morgan descendants (Bush, Harriman, Walker etc.). The warming
people want to sell 500 nuclear power plants to China and a similar amount
to the rest of the world. The terrorism guys want to keep U.S. dominance by
maintaining control over oil. Putin was a huge setback for them.

"They are also neo-Nazis who want to reduce the amount of colored people in
the world by at least half through disease, starvation and war. The Chinese
secret society got wind of this and is preparing to stop them."

GERMANY AND SCANDINAVIA NOT ILLUMINATI?

I challenged Fulford on Germany, Italy, Scandinavia and possibly Russia not
being controlled by the Illuminati. He replied that "the quality of my
intelligence varies":

"I can say with certainty that China, Russia and India are free. When Putin
kicked out Nieslev and Bereshovsky and arrested Khordokovsky, he basically
kicked the Rockefellers and Rothschilds out of Russia. I have good Russian
sources and am confident Putin is a nationalist who is fighting the
Illuminati with all his might. When ex-NSA chief Bobby Inman spoke at the
Foreign Correspondent's Club of Japan on June 26th he made it very clear he
expected a protracted struggle with Russia.

"India kicked them out in Ghandi's day and they have never been allowed
back. Having liberated themselves after 300 years of Illuminati (East India
Company) rule, they do not intend to let themselves fall under their control
again.

"There have been many attempts by the Illuminati to infiltrate and dominate
China. They financed Chairman Mao but he then kicked them out in the 1960's
(that is why China and the USSR nearly went to war then). They are now
trying to create a financial crisis in China that would open the way for
them to infiltrate the Chinese financial system. They will not succeed.
Italy basically purged itself during the big P2 Masonic lodge scandal back
in the 80's and re-infiltration has only been partly successful. Germany is
part of the Nato alliance and is thus indirectly controlled. There is a
powerful branch of the Rothschild family operating there.

"However, Germany does not appear on a top-secret Illuminati power flow
chart I have obtained. As far as Iran is concerned, I know they financed
Ayatollah Khomeini and Iran appears on the flow chart I have. My
understanding is they want to provoke a conflict between Islam and the West
so they can consolidate their control over the Muslim and Christian worlds
before finishing world conquest by taking over China and India."

CONCLUSION

Fulford says a meeting is being arranged with Russia's Vladimir Putin to
make sure the KGB also cooperates in this plan to snatch the eye out of the
pyramid.

"So far, I have told the Illuminati that they are no longer allowed to
murder Japanese politicians. I now plan to extend this protection to all
politicians in the West. If the Illuminati assassinate or attempt to
assassinate Ron Paul, Barak Obama or any politician, may God have mercy on
their souls."

"Since I am a peace-loving, laid-back Canadian suddenly put in a situation
of great responsibility, I feel I must act as a servant of the weakest
people and creatures on the planet. I have also been negotiating in secret
with the Illuminati in the hopes of arranging for them to cede power without
any bloodshed in exchange for a general amnesty.

"I do believe we now have a real chance to end the New World Order and start
the New Age. The New Age would be one where war, poverty and environmental
destruction would only be found in the history books."

I applaud Benjamin Fulford's courage, idealism and defiance. However, he is
new to this subject and may have been mislead. He shouldn't use Illuminati
terminology like "New Age." The Illuminati control the central banks of
Russia, China, India and Venezuela. They control the EU. Germany may not
appear on the Illuminati chart because it is at the top. Barak Obama is a
Zionist stooge. The Illuminati Li Ka-Shing (and family) has had a major role
in China. Heck, the Communists are Illuminati. I thought the Illuminati
controlled organized crime. I can't imagine a genuinely benevolent secret
society. It would be encouraging if this were one.

It's possible Fulford is sincere but is being used to confuse and/or create
divisions. Possibly they want to ramp up domestic terrorism as an excuse for
martial law. Now, Orientals as well as Muslims could be on the watch list.
This Chinese society is challenging the traitorous Western Establishment.
We're talking about the State apparatus! So please be critical. It may or
may not be true. Time will tell.

In any case, it's time we refused to bow down to tyranny and called a spade
a spade.

Imagine, in Japan he writes the truth in the mainstream media! Maybe some
day, we'll do that in America. Benjamin Fulford is an inspiration and he
deserves our thanks.


http://www.rense.com/general77/chinsec.htm