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Morphic Fields i Rupert Sheldrake

Da li neko moze da mi napise nesto vise na ovu temu,ili da mi preporuci neki dobar sajt?

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What the Hell is Morphic Resonance?

(excerpts from an interview with Rupert Sheldrake)

Rupert Sheldrake answers: The idea is that there is a kind of memory in nature. Each kind of thing has a collective memory. So, take a squirrel living in New York now. That squirrel is being influenced by all past squirrels. And how that influence moves across time, the collective

The whole idea of morphic resonance is evolutionary...

squirrel-memory both for form and for instincts, is given by the process I call morphic resonance. It's a theory of collective memory throughout nature. What the memory is expressed through are the morphic fields, the fields within and around each organ ism. The memory processes are due to morphic resonance. That's the idea.

Interviewer: I'm interested in the way morphic fields might determine culture. For instance, repeating and idea with the intention of influencing overall human consciousness- if it's thought about many times, will it have an effect?

Rupert Sheldrake: You mean the more people think about something, the more it's likely to happen? Yes. Basically, morphic fields are fields of habit, and they've been set up through habits of thought, through habits of activity, and through habits of speech. M ost of our culture is habitual, I mean, most of our personal life, and most of our cultural life is habitual. We don't invent the English language. We inherit the whole English language with all its habits, its turns of phrase, its usage of words, its s tructure, its grammar. Occasionally people invents new words, but basically, once we've assimilated it, it happens automatically. I don't have to think when I'm speaking, reaching for the next word. It just happens, and the same is true about physical skills, like riding a bicycle, or swimming, or skiing if you can ski, these kinds of things. So I think the more often these things happen the easier they become for people to learn. Things like learning language have happened over- well, we don't know how long human language has been around, at least 50,000 years, so there's a tremendously well-established morphic field for language-speaking. Each particular language has its own field which is usually established over centuries at least.

Basically, morphic fields are fields of habit, and they've been set up through habits of thought, through habits of activity, and through habits of speech. Most of our culture is habitual, I mean, most of our personal life, and most of our cultural life is habitual.

Interviewer: So there is that which is habitual, perhaps the bulk of what happens, which is given through morphic fields set up through repetition, but then there are also events or acts which are novel, new events...

Rupert Sheldrake: Yes. The whole idea of morphic resonance is evolutionary, but morphic resonance only gives the repetitions. It doesn't give the creativity. So evolution must involve an interplay of creativity and repetition. Creativity gives new forms, new patterns, new ideas, new art forms. And we don't know where creativity comes from. Is it inspired from above? Welling up from below? Picked up from the air? What? Creativity is a mystery wherever you encounter it, in the human realm, or in the realm of biological evolution, or of cosmic evolution. We know creativity happens. And then what happens is a kind of Darwinian natural selection. Not every good idea survives. Not every new form of art is repeated. Not every new potential instinct is suc cessful. Only the successful ones get repeated. By natural selection and then through repetition they become probable, more habitual.

Interviewer: Was there a primary idea which led you to the hypotheses of morphic resonance? Was there a moment of insight?

Rupert Sheldrake: Well, there were several. There was, first of all, the recognition that took quite a long time to dawn, that reductionistic science couldn't answer the questions. Mechanistic biology in particular is too limited. Then there was the idea the w e need a more holistic approach, and I got interested in holistic biologists and the idea morphogenetic fields, which was already around in biology.

Morphic fields organize self-organizing systems, things that organize themselves, like snowflakes, or molecules, or ecosystems, or animals, or plants, or societies, like flocks of birds

But the key insight really came by realizing that there were these connections through time, or that there could be these connections through time, and that came as a kind of tremendous flash of insight as a result of reading Bergson's book, Matter and Memory. Henri Bergson was a French philosopher who wrote Matter and Memory around 1896. It was published in English in 1911, but now it's terribly obscure. Most people haven't ever heard of Bergson, let alone read him. But he was an extrem ely influential and important philosopher at the time, and I think just years ahead of his time. Insights from his book gave me this idea. And then I realized that morphogenetic fields might also have a kind of memory. That was the basic insight into m orphogenetic resonance. This happened in 1973, when I was in Cambridge, teaching there.

Interviewer: I'm reading a book called A New Vision of Reality written by Bede Griffiths. I understand that you've had some contact with him and I was wondering what his influence had been.

Rupert Sheldrake: Bede Griffiths died a year ago. He was an English Benedictine monk who went and lived in India for 30 years. He was trying to find a way of bridging the Eastern and the Western spiritual traditions and philosophies. So he lived and wore orang e robes.

In the entire process of cosmic evolution you see a spiritual process as well as a material process. You can't separate the two.

He became a Hindu-type sanyasin. He lived in a simple ashram, vegetarian, sitting on the ground, and so on. In his ashram in south India people practice yoga and meditation and also follow a Christian style of life, so it's trying to find an Indian kin d of Christianity.

Interviewer: A kind of synthesis?

Rupert Sheldrake: A synthesis, yes. I spent seven years living in India. For five years I was working in an international agricultural research institute doing regular western-type science, trying to improve Indian crops, and I spent two years living with Bede Griffiths in his ashram. I wrote my first book, A New Science of Life, living in his ashram in south India, and it's dedicated to him. So I find him a most helpful bridge between traditions of East and West. It's one thing to study Eastern philo sophy and Western philosophy, it's another to try and go deeper into meditative techniques and the consciousness of both traditions.

Interviewer: Experientially. RS Yes. So that's what he was doing there, and the ashram he founded is still continuing.

Interviewer: In Bede Griffith's book he refers to the 'perennial philosophy', a set of ideas that all traditional people seem to share to some degree. This seems to be a type of understanding of the world to which your hypotheses would be sympathetic. It is interesting to me, the idea of someone going into these ancient beliefs as a contemporary scientist and connecting it to an empirical approach.

Rupert Sheldrake: Well you see, I think a lot of harm was done in the West by splitting apart science and religion in the 17th century. Science became very limited in its focus to mechanical, material things, and religion became very introverted; it became very concerned just with the human spirit and with morality and so forth, and so religion signed over the whole of the natural world including the cosmos to science and science signed over to religion human ethical questions and left this terribly limited dom ain as the sphere of religion. In most traditional cultures, these are not separated in that way. For an American Indian looking at the sky, he's not looking at just a material collection of bodies moving in accordance with inanimate laws. The sky is a living being, the abode of the spirit. The earth is a living mother; it's not just a collection of rocks with physical forces at work in them. So, if you look at any traditional world view there isn't a separation between nature and spirit, and religio n and science. The two go together. It's a much more holistic and integrated view of the world, and I think that, as science emerges from this narrow, mechanistic phase that it's been in and we move to a broader vision, a new kind of connection between the realms of science and spirituality becomes possible. They can converge again. They can relate to each other once more. This is something I spent years exploring with Bede Griffiths and more recently I've been having a whole series of discussions wi th Matthew Fox. Matthew Fox is a maverick theologian who was expelled from the Dominicans last year and who's working independently. He has written several well-known books. One is called Original Blessing. Another is called Coming of the Cosmic Christ. Essentially, he is trying to recover a sense or spirituality in nature, that it's not just something inside, or to do with morality and sin. It's to do with the whole of nature. The divine presence in the sky, in the earth, in our expe rience of nature all around us. In the entire process of cosmic evolution you see a spiritual process as well as a material process. You can't separate the two. They go together. And human evolution involves both a spiritual conscious and a cultural e volution, and the evolution of science and technology. You can't separate these things. He's been working along these lines for quite a long time, and he and I have been having a series of discussions, and we have a book coming out in spring called N atural Grace: Dialogues on Science and Spirituality, which is an attempt to explore these connections in this new context. He's also very much involved with innovative rituals, the rediscovery of ritual and the way in which art and multimedia, and ne w forms of expression including electronic means can be used in new forms of ritual. He's been working particularly with several groups in England where amazing new forms of experimental services have come out of the rave nightclub movement. In northern England, in cities like Sheffield and Leeds there's a whole flowering of new forms of religious ritual which have grown out of the psychedelic rave scene, where they've taken on a Christian form in a rave setting with multimedia, sampling, and music. Cosmic masses bringing together the elements of earth, air, fire, and water. One of these was held in Grace Cathedral in San Francisco a few months ago. Some people cam they've been done before, and by setting up a whole pattern of movements and activitie s in this similar way, you resonate with previous people who've performed the ritual. Traditional cultures believe that rituals are a way of connecting through time, of collapsing time. You could say that the patterns of rituals embody morphic fields- I would call them morphic fields, but you could also call them archetypes, because archetypes is another word, I think, for the same idea. So it's interesting what you say that people who try to invent new ones after a while find in fact they've resurrect ed old ones. There are, perhaps, certain very basic forms that occur again and again in rituals, and for ritual to be effective it has to link to these ancient patterns or morphic fields. If you make up something totally new with no background it won't have any resonant power, at least to start with.


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Iz knjige „...HOMO X“ (Tragom čovjeka i pradrevnih kultura)

ORAO MUDROSTI – BOŽANSKI DONOSITELJ ZNANJA

Neobično zanimljiva predaja o pojavi znanja na Zemlji u drevno prapovijesno doba sačuvala se tijekom bezbrojnih naraštaja kod sjevernoameričkih Indijanaca. Ona kazuje kako su ljudi na Majci Zemlji nekoć davno od Velikog Duha (Boga) dobili mnoga korisna znanja koja su im znatno unaprijedila, olakšala i uljepšala život te omogućila brz društveni razvoj. U toj drevnoj i maštovitoj indijanskoj predaji spominje se kao donositelj znanja veliki i snažni 'Orao mudrosti' koji je jakim zamasima krila, po naredbi Velikog Duha, dugo oblijetao Majčicu Zemlju. Taj neobični 'Orao mudrosti' kružio je oko nje još od drevnih vremena kada je Veliki Duh stvorio ljude i udijelio im srce i razum.

Predaja kazuje da je 'Orao mudrosti' nosio znanje na svojim snažnim krilima i, oblijećući Zemlju, nesebično ga je širio diljem čitavog svijeta. On je prenosio znanja samo u srca onih ljudi koji su bilo dovoljno snažni i hrabri da smirena duha nepokolebljivo gledaju njegovo lice. Ta zanimljiva indijanska predaja nadalje kaže da je orao mudrosti poznavao sve kulture tadašnjeg svijeta i da je govorio svim njihovim jezicima. Tijekom davno prohujalog prapovijesnog vremena, on je postupno obznanio svoja znanja mnogim duhovno zrelim i otvorenim ljudima po čitavom svijetu. Nesebično ga je prenosio odabranim Indijancima, Egipćanima, Sumeranima, Kinezima te odabranim pripadnicima mnogih drugih naroda.

Svi smioni ljudi otvorena duha u to drevno doba imali su mogućnost pristupa njegovu neiscrpnu znanju koje im je nesebično darivao ustrajno oblijećući Majčicu Zemlju. Telepatski nadarenim pojedincima bila su tada paranormalnim putem također u svakom trenutku dostupna znanja mnogih tisućama kilometara udaljenih mudraca iz svih dijelova svijeta. U ono doba malobrojnim ljudima koji su nastanjivali Zemlju nisu bile postavljene granice stjecanja znanja i mudrosti.

Indijanci skloni tradiciji drže da je 'Orao mudrosti' na taj način postavio čvrste temelje znanja i razumijevanja među svim drevnim narodima. Mnogi od njih i danas nepokolebljivo vjeruju da su svi ljudi oduvijek na tajanstven način međusobno duboko duhovno povezani nekim nevidljivim nitima na podsvjesnoj razini te da svi solidarno dijele zajedničku sudbinu na Majčici Zemlji.

Na taj je način u drevna vremena taj neobični božanski „glasnik mudrosti“ objedinio u jednom duhu svekoliko čovječanstvo na Majčici Zemlji. Indijanci s prilično valjanih razloga drže da je samo tako bilo moguće da gotovo istodobno niknu te vrlo brzo stasaju i procvatu drevne visokorazvijene kulture i civilizacije na različitim i međusobno tisućama kilometara udaljenim i prostranim oceanima razdvojenim dijelovima Majčice Zemlje.

Indijanci nadalje vjeruju da je 'Orao mudrosti' tijekom svojih oblijetanja oko Majčice Zemlje razapeo iznad nje neku nevidljivu mrežu koja omogućuje svim ljudima svijeta međusoban duhovni dodir na dubokoj podsvjesnoj razini. Ta je suptilna i neuništiva komunikacijska duhovna mreža kojom upravlja Veliki Duh (Bog) temeljni preduvjet za razumijevanje i suradnju među svim ljudima i narodima svijeta.

Da neobična povezanost među ljudima na nekoj višoj razini, o čemu govore predaje sjevernoameričkih Indijanaca, nije samo puka maštarija u novije vrijeme vrlo uvjerljivo potvrđuju neka vrlo originalna istraživanja ponašanja složenih organizama koja se temelje na danas već znanstveno potvrđenoj pretpostavci o postojanju morfogeničkih polja i njihovoj rezonantnoj funkciji. Ta je nefizička polja vrlo neobičnih svojstava prije dvadesetak godina u svojoj knjizi A NEW SCIENCE OF LIFE (NOVA ZNANOST O ŽIVOTU) znanstveno postulirao uvaženi britanski istraživač i biolog svjetskog glasa dr. Rupert Sheldrake.

On je još prije dvadesetak godina u svojoj doktorskoj disertaciji iznio vrlo smionu i originalnu hipotezu da su svi biološki sustavi – u koje se kao najsloženiji ubraja i čovjek – na stanovit način upravljani ili, možda bolje rečeno, usmjeravani ne samo poznatim materijalnim i energetskim faktorima, već također specifično organiziranim i strukturiranim suptilnim morfogeničkim poljima koja nisu dostupna našim uobičajenim osjetilima i instrumentima.

Ona, kao nefizička polja, nisu sijela sile i energije, već su nezamislivo velike baze važnih životodajnih informacija i od pamtivijeka su prisutna te podsvjesno jednako dostupna svim bićima u svakoj točki svemira. Ta ga polja na nevidljiv način prožimaju, povezuju i objedinjuju u jedinstvenu informatičku mrežu titanskih razmjera. Ta sveprisutna fizički nemanifestirana informacijsko-komunikacijska polja čine jedinstvenu kozmičku bazu ažuriranih podataka titanskih razmjera.

U njima su nematerijalno, te stoga neuništivo i trajno, pohranjena na odgovarajućim adresama (razinama ili frekvencijama) znanja i životna iskustva svih životnih vrsta koje su nastanjivale ili nastanjuju svemir te zapisi o svim zbivanjima od trenutka stvaranja svemira do danas. Egzistencija tih sveprisutnih i neuništivih nefizičkih polja, koja neprestano primaju i emitiraju informacije, nikad nije bila sporna za ezoteričare i teozofe koji su ih nazivali akašičkim zapisima.

Svi dragocjeni podaci pohranjeni u tim poljima selektivno su dostupni u svakom trenutku i na svakom mjestu svim jedinkama iste vrste na podsvjesnoj razini. Na njihovom duboko podsvjesnom iščitavanju, kako drži dr. R. Sheldrake, temelji se razvitak, ponašanje te uravnotežena svrsishodna evolucija zemljopisno raspršenih i tisućama kilometara razdvojenih istovrsnih životnih jedinki, sukladno dostignutom razvojnom stupnju svake pojedine vrste.

Morfogenička polja su, kao svojevrsna 'matrica podataka' koja prožima čitav svemir, posvome karakteru uzročna, jer informacije pohranjene u njima neprekidno služe kao aktivni predlošci za svrsishodan oblik i ponašanje svakog organizma i njegovu evoluciju. Ta se polja bez ikakva prigušenja trenutno rasprostiru čitavim svemirom i jednako su dostupna u svim njegovim točkama. Po tome se bitno razlikuju od znanih nam fizičkih polja.

Morfogenička se polja stalno spontano ažuriraju novim podacima (iskustvima i znanjima) od svih živih bića, kojima su istovremeno u svakom trenutku podsvjesno dostupni u njima pohranjeni podaci svih njihovih istovrsnih predšasnika. Stoga se može reći da ta suptilna, trajna i sveprisutna informacijska polja na osobit način nadilaze granice prostora i vremena te vjerojatno čine pozadinsku informatičku podršku izuzetno sporom, dugotrajnom i svrsishodnom procesu evolucije svih životnih vrsta.

Tako je, primjerice, pomoću morfogeničkih polja, koja na dubokoj podsvjesnoj razini neprekidno iščitavaju sva živa bića, moguće uvjerljivo objasniti neobičnu činjenicu da je, nakon što je jedna grupa majmuna na nekom otoku teškom mukom naučila novo ponašanje, ubrzo i bez pol muke to isto spontano naučila i druga grupa istovrsnih majmuna na drugom vrlo udaljenom otoku koji sa svojim kolegama nikada nisu bili u fizičkoj vezi niti su s njima bilo kako mogli komuncirati na svjesnoj razini.


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Morphic Resonance and Collective Memory (Rupert Sheldrake, Ph.d.)


Memory is inherent in Nature, and what we think of as the laws of Nature may be more like habits. The basis of this memory process is morphic resonance, which is the influence of like upon like through or across space or time. Its implication, in the realm of heredity, is that inheritance depends not only on the chemical genes coded in DNA but also on morphic resonance from past members of the species. Other implications are an accelerated rate of evolution of new patterns of form and behavior; memory in individuals being based on self-resonance and not stored in the brain; the existence of a collective memory, to which we all contribute and on which we all draw; and providing understanding of past-life memories, survival of bodily death, telepathy, and ritual.

This hypothesis is part of a wider change in paradigm in which all of Nature, the entire cosmos, is viewed as being alive. This new sense of the life of Nature connects with the morphic resonance idea in the idea of the memory of place, or field, exemplified by the sense of places both haunted and sacred, which is the basis of such human activities as pilgrimage. Regardless of the ultimate validity of morphic resonance, a return to the sense and idea of Nature as alive and animate is absolutely essential to coming into a better relationship with the environment, on which we depend, and therefore is probably essential for our very survival.

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I .. o cemu si ti ovdje zapravo htio diskutirati.


Topic je pozeljno otvoriti svojim stavom, osobnim iskustvom, hipotezom ili teorijom.
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Moj grijeh! :oops:

Dakle... obzirom da zvanicna znanost je disciplina koja rijetko izlazi van fizickog i bila bi najsretnija kada svijest ne bi nikada ni postojala, ova teorija mi jos i najvise drzi vodu. Prateci Terrenca McKennu, naletila sam na predavanje u kojem je navedeni Rupert Sheldrake sudjelovao i ponudio ideju da npr. kada laboratorijski misevi nauce kako izaci iz nekog labirinta, ostali misevi to "pokupe" bez da su ikada prosli tim istim labirintom. Neki bi to nazvali i fenomenom 100 majmuna.
Sheldrake opisuje ovaj proces kao morficnu rezonancu; prosle forme i nacini ponasanja bilo koje vrste utjecu kroz vrijeme i prostor na sadasnju vrstu. I u konacnici, ono sto se interpretira kao regularnosti ilitiga zakoni prirode, nisu nista drugo doli navikom steceni obrasci ponasanja koji ostanu memorirani u polju.

Trazenje nekih odgovora ne lezi u razumijevanju kako masina prirode radi, vec u razumijevanju da bilo koji sistem nije oblikovan univerzalnim zakonom koji obuhvaca sve zivo i usmjeruje ga vec jedinstvenim morficnim poljem unutar kojeg je kolektivna memorija. Znaci, organizmi ne dijele samo genetiku sa onima unutar svoje vrste, nego i polje specificno za tu vrstu.
Presence of the past je ono sto cini floru, faunu, a i nas.

Svemir je cesto dozivljavan kao nesto beztjelesno, odvojeno od prirodnog svijeta, sto pluta iznad prostora i vremena u vjecnoj nepromijenjivosti. I nema sumnje da je to jedan aspekt, jedan pol... neka vrsta apsolutnog postojanja nasuprot bilo kakvog osjecaja nastajanja. Ali ima i drugi pol koji cini taj kreativni proces i koji je jos uvijek misterij.

Recimo, unutar polja specificne frekvencije za ptice (naprimjer), dioba stanica traje i replicira se dok ne nastane dovoljno stanicnog materijala da bi polje moglo poceti sa gradnjom tijelesne forme, pretpostavljenih organa i sl.

Jos jedno zanimljivo pitanje jest : kako stvari u prirodi poprimaju oblik kakav poprimaju? Sto cini zeca da izgleda bas kao zec. Zasto su molekule takve kakve jesu? ... hm, hm.


" Gurdjieff said that not only do bodies die, but that the essence or spirit must also die (over a longer time), if the spirit doesn’t take on another body. As though it’s okay for the spirit to take a holiday from it’s evolution work, but if it doesn’t thereafter continue, then in time it loses its power to not only make its new vehicle but even the power to “be” in spirit. What determines how long one can ‘fly’ as spirit? Perhaps it’s how well one does one’s job while in the body state – what does one learn, really learn? what experiences of value does one access through one’s free will with humble attitude so that one is fully open to what is going on around one and thereby can learn the most in the best way? do we take advantage of the gift of wisdom that our morphic field provides us? "

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Ja selim u ovu temu. :wink:

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Da malo upletemo i genetiku u morfo-genetsko polje:

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According to Gajajev, the genomic information of the organism is also stored non-locally, this means that it is not restricted to the DNA molecules itself. The DNA molecule merely acts as a storage device that is able to read and write the genomic information from a non-local distributed field. DNA acts like a fractal environment that stores the coherent blue laser light in a holographic way. This genomic hologram can be read using either Electromagnetic or acoustic fields.
Now here’s a quote from the paper:
"DNA acts as a kind of aerial open to the reception of not only the internal influences and changes within the organism but to those outside it as well. Indeed we regard this as one of our primary findings, which in view of quantum nonlocality of organisms extends not only to the organism's local environment, but also beyond it to the extent of the entire universe."
Remember from chapter 3 ‘Science and consciousness’, paragraph ‘morphic fields’ that biologist Rupert Sheldrake had already proposed the morphic field. Morphic genetic fields encode genetic information that is shared by all members of a species. The DNA bio wave computer model proposed by Gajajev and his group shed a whole new light not only on where and how the genetic information is actually stored but also where it initially came from. If genetic information is actually stored in morphic fields in the fabric of space and time, we may also start to re-evaluate Darwin’s evolution theory. [...]

iz podužeg teksta na:

http://5352d6aa.cable.casema.nl/index2.php?option=com_content&do_pdf=1&id=1259

p.s.: imam problema s otvaranjem originalne stranice (postala sam iz svoje hd-kopije), tako da ne mogu garantirati da je još uvijek aktivna...


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Ima na google-u po nesto, ali nisam siguran da je isto, pa mozes i ti da copy-paste sa svog kompjutera. Ne bilo ti zapovedjeno :D


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No problemo. Dapače.

Cijeli tekst podužeg članka je ovdje:

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Pozdrav svima,

Jack(hvala)je upravo uploadao moju maturu na net.

C.G. jung, kolektivno necjesno i suvremene teorije

evo sadržaja da vidite o cemu se radi:

1. Uvod..................................................................................3
2. Carl Gustav Jung i kolektivno nesvjesno
2.1. Carl Gustav Jung................................................................4
2.2. Kolektivno nesvjesno..........................................................6
2.3. Struktura psihe i odnos sa kolektivno nesvjesnim..............7

2.3.1. Persona .................................................................8
2.3.2. Ja............................................................................9
2.3.3. Svijest ....................................................................9
2.3.4. Individualno nesvjesno............................................9
2.3.5. Sadržaj kolektivno nesvjesnog i arhetipovi............10
2.3.6. Anima i animus.....................................................11
2.3.7. Sjena.....................................................................11
2.3.8. Jastvo................................................................... 11
2.4. Epilog drugog poglavlja.....................................................13
3. Fizika kolektivno nesvjesnog
3.1. Slijepa ulica kvantne fizike................................................14
3.2. Kvantni vakuum.................................................................15
3.3. Zapis kolektivno nesvjesnog u kvantnom vakuumu..........16
3.4. Torus i Implozijska fizika...................................................17
3.5. Epilog treceg poglavlja......................................................18
4. Biologija kolektivno nesvjesnog
4.1. Hologramsko pamcenje...................................................19
4.2. DNK kao komunikator......................................................20
4.3. Epilog cetvrtog poglavlja ..................................................21
5. Fizika Jastva
5.1. Analogija torusa i Jastva...................................................22
6. Zakljucak........................................................................26
7. Literatura........................................................................27


Takoder su navesti zakljucak radnje:

1. Psihologija Jastva je fizika torusa. Opisi i prikazi oba pojma se poklapaju u mjeri lišenoj neodredenosti, zakljucak: Jastvo je isto što i torus.
2. Kolektivno nesvjesno je memorija «zapisana» u eteru koja komunicira sa individuom preko DNK-a spirale.

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Pozdrav, Vladimir.


Mislim da je dobro da se ovaj post kopira na ovaj topic. :wink:

Čestitam na radu!!

Da izdvojim deo koji mi je posebno privukao pažnju: poređenje između Jastva i torusa i mandale:

3.3. Zapis kolektivno nesvjesnog u kvantnom vakuumu

Široko podrucje fizike etera i torzijskih valova (polja) na ovom mjestu nije moguce detaljno obraditi, iako bi za potpunije razumijevanje to bilo korisno. Zato cu prikazati samo kratke sažetke koji su potrebni sa razradu teme. Citatelja upucujem na reference gdje su detaljno obradeni sažetci koje prikazujem.

Zapadna fizika nije pridodavala mnogo pozornosti fizici etera i torzijskim valovima koje su A. Einstein i E. Cartan anticipirali 1913. g ., a Nikola Tesla namjerno proizvodio. Torzijske valove je bilo teško mjeriti te ih je moguce sa sigurnošcu utvrditi kada eksperiment zadovoljava niz uvjeta. Einstein – Cartan teorija (ECT) je predvidala da su torzijska polja slaba te da se ne mogu micati, no 70-ih godina je naraslo zanimanje za ETC i torzijske valove te su znanstvenici poput D. Sciame, T. Kibbela i dr. razradili ECT demonstrirajuci novo razumijevanje prirode torzijski valova. Oni su pokazali da se torzijsko polje stvara pri okretanju objekta, kao npr. okretanje planeta oko vlastite osi.

Jedna od najvecih tajna koje su Rusi sakrivali do pada željezne zavjese bila su otkrica cijenjenog i kontraverznog astrofizicara, Nikolaija Kozyreva. On je otkrio metodu za detektiranje torzijskih valova. Njegovi eksperimenti su ponovljeni mnogo puta, te je on sa svojim kolegama pažljivo razradio metodu, matematiku, teoriju itd. koja je opisivala i detektirala torzijske valove. Kasnije su dr. Harold Aspen sa Cambridgea, Bruce De Palma i dr. uspješno provjerili Kozyreve zakljucke. Kozyrev je dokazao da svaka materija emitira mjerljive torzijske valove, od atoma do Sunca. Nadalje, uspio je dokazati da emocije i misli takoder emitiraju iste valove. Odnosno, sve što postoji na materijalnom planu postoji zahvaljujuci eteru . Svaka misao, slika i osjecaj su «zapisani» u valovima etera, cineci tako polje memorije poznato kao kolektivno nesvjesno. Za usporedbu, citirat cu Lynne McTaggart: «Misli, osjecaji i sve druge, više kognitivne funkcije povezane su s kvantnim informacijama koje istovremeno pulsiraju kroz naš mozak i tijelo. Ljudska percepcija rezultat je medudjelovanja subatomskih cestica našeg mozga i mora kvantne energije. Doslovce rezoniramo s našim svijetom» . Dakle, ono što su tisucljecima naši predci doživljavali (emitirali) formiralo se u konkretne arhetipove. Povezanost psihologije i fizike je fantasticna.

3.4. Torus i Implozijska fizika
Od svih ponudenih teorija koje objašnjavaju materiju (a time i psihu), implozijsku fiziku na celu sa znanstvenikom Danielom Wintersom, smatram naj

Eter je isprepleteno polje valova. Valovi mogu se «materijalizirati» ukoliko implodiraju u omjeru zlatnog reza odnosno Fibonaccijeva niza. Možemo zamisliti površinu potoka ili rijeke, kada valovi «žele» implodirat, oni naprave vir ili u slucaju torzijskih valova etera, torus (vidi sl.9. i 10.) Ne–destruktivna implozija je jedino moguca ako valovi implodiraju po zlatnom rezu. U tom trenutku oni postaju fraktali koji stvaraju sami sebe. (vidi sl. 11, 12, i 13) . Samo-ponavljajuca matrica sljedeci zlatni rez postaje sve kraca, a time postiže i sve vecu akceleraciju koja daje gravitaciju premašivši brzinu svijetlosti.

5.1. Analogija torusa i Jastva
Zanimljivo je primijetiti kako Jastvo↔mandala↔torus posjeduju zajednicke osobine. Ponajprije valja usporediti simbol Jastva, mandalu sa torusima:

Točka, centar iz koje proizlazi i tece sva energija je centar Jastva, cista svijest, duša, suština, sveti zvuk OM , Casua sui , za koju je na zanimljiv, geometrijski nacin Johannes Kepler tvrdio da je duša. Jung je naziva prozorom u vjecnost, emanirajucim centrom psihickog života. Tocka iz koje nastaju ostale strukture. Priroda te tocke rezultira fraklatom (v. sl. 4., 6., 7., 8., 13., 15., 16.,17., 18., 20., 21., 22.), odnosno samo-ponavljajucom tvorbom koja obnavlja sebstvo. Fizika torusa pokazuje istu dinamiku, koja se intuitivno može naslutiti, a daljnjim razmatranjem i dokazati. Crna rupa torusa (v. sl. 10., 11., 12., 23., 24., 25., 26) sadrži iste kvalitete kao i centar Jastva odnosno mandale. Ona takoder emanira fraktalno tvoreci jabuku koja se konstantno samo-obnavlja. Samo-obnavljanje je ekvivalent samo-svjesnosti. Navedena teza je razlog zašto npr. Sri Yantra (v.sl.6, str.8), služi kao preslika unutrašnjeg stanja koja pomaže pri postizanju koncentracije. Samo-svijest vraca raspršenu pažnju na centar Jastva te time postiže termin koji se primjerice u psihoterapeutskim i dr. školama naziva Sada i Ovdje, (v.2.3.3.). Jung kazuje za tocku sljedece: Ono « nam je strano i istodobno blisko, naše potpuno vlastito središte koje nam je unatoc tome nepoznato, virtualno središte neke tajanstvene konstrukcije (...) poceci našeg sveukupnog duševnog života koji se doimaju kao da nerazmrsivo izviru iz te tocke, kojoj naizlgled streme svi najviši i konacni ciljevi. To je paradoks koji je, medutim, neizbježan, želimo li oznaciti nešto što se nalazi onkraj sposobnosti našeg razuma.» Dakle, centar torusa i centar Jastva (mandale) opisuju sadrže istu tocku.

Obod, krug Sebstva je sadržaj proistekao iz središta. Na mandalama je vidljivo kako sadržaj emanira iz središta. Usporedbom mandala i torusa vidljiva je istovjetnost njihove prirode, a slika 4. (str.7) opisuje strukturu tog oboda. Fraktalicnost oboda mandala opisuje torus.

Dr. William Tiller je pomocu tzv. IIED (Intention Imprinted Electric Device) plocice mjerio utjecaj covjekove koncentracije odnosno namjere."
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Mislim da bi dalje istraživanje u ovom pravcu moglo da da veoma zanimljive rezultate.

I jedan mali torus zelene bole, koji se lepo uvija u skladu sa "središtem": :wink:

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