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Nekad je to bio lako zadatak, dovoljno je bilo napisati knjige (Biblija, Kuran...) i eto mocnici iza scene bi stvorili sebi novu igracku, novu religiju za upravljanje sirokom narodnim masama.

Ali danas u doba interneta kad im sve stare obmane polako padaju, kako se ti isti mocnici mogu zastiti da se njih same ne otkrije? Trebali bi oko sebe postaviti neprobojnu dimnu zavjesu, labirint izgradjen od zrcala gdje ce se ljudi koji pokusaju doprit do njih izgubit. Treba stvorit sljepe ulice koje ce "tragatelje za istinom" odvesti u sto raznih labirinata. Jedni ce otici u svemir, drugi u dubine zemlje, treci u daleku proslost, cetvrti u cetvrte dimenzije, peti u krscanstvo, sesti u nacizam ...itd. Ma svuda samo da neidu tamo gdje se mocnici doista nalaze. To ni pod razno, jer samo je jedna ulica zabranjena zona! Ako netko krene tom stazom prijete mu razne opasnosti. No da bi se znatizeljne skrenulo sa putanje prema centru zavjere, knjige za taj pothvat vise nisu dovoljne.

Treba se prilagoditi vremenu i napasti znatizeljne svim dostupnim oruzjima: knjige, filmovi, radio, tv serije, novine, internet, znanost, skolstvo ...itd. Ta sva oruzja treba podesit tako da istrazivace deflektiraju sa puta, da im plasiraju podatke koje nece moci nikako provjerit. No ti podatci ce zvucat dovoljno interesantno da ih odvedu u sljepu ulicu na barem iducih par godina. (zvuci poznato?) Evo kako je ovaj proces trajao zadnjih 50-ak godina...


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The biggest people in the media are members of the Council on Foreign Relations and Trilateral Commission, both creations of Skull and Bones and David Rockefeller. The media is used to promote disinformation and propaganda. The only way you can think the media doesn't withhold information is if you don't know what is REALLY going on. Hitler said, in regard to propaganda and thought control, "The bigger the lie, the easier to believe". Sometimes it can be very difficult to discern the truth and find out what is really going on. Your heart will tell you one thing and your intellect another and usually we get caught up believing what we want to believe because it's too much trouble to see all the way through.

To one with an open mind, it would seem foolish to assume that we are alone in the universe. In contrast, to one with a closed mind and a probable lack of spirituality, it would appear that reality is made up only of what we see and feel physically. There is, at this time, a growing awareness on the planet that perhaps we are not alone. Millions of people around the world claim to have seen unidentified flying objects, flying disks, bright lights, and fast moving objects that reflect advanced technology, that we, most people claim, could not possess. Some people claim to have been abducted by GREY ALIENS and underwent childbearing and medical experiments only to have been returned somewhere unconscious with examination scars left behind. Thousands of cattle mutilations have occurred in remote areas sometimes followed by sightings of flying disks or bright lights and occasionally black helicopters.

There has been a recent movie made about the crash and retrieval of a spaceship as well as bodies of several dead aliens in Roswell, New Mexico and it is suggested that the government might be covering up this entire situation for political or religious reasons. UFO researchers were a very small group in the 1950's and 60's, but recently in the 1980's and 90's there has been an enormous increase in interest on the subject. I was personally first introduced to this information in 1987 through info put out by Bill Cooper a little while before the first printing of "Behold a Pale Horse". I was very curious about the subject and read everything of quality that I could find. There were less than 100 half-way decent books in print that you could find at the time. Today, there are probably over 500. I read the best books I could find by retired high ranking military officials, channeled material from Seth and The Ashtar Command, I learned about Billy Meier, Barbara Marciniak and the Pleadians material, Bob Lazaar, Area 51 and S-4 Dreamland in Las Vegas, listened to contactees discuss the Draco- Reptilian and Andromeda connection and watched Richard Hoagland bring out the "Face on Mars" info to the U.N. and the public.

If you take the sum total of the info that exists and put it into perspective, it would appear as though our race may have been seeded here by off-planet intelligences or that we were created as an intergalactic experiment, that huge 8-10 foot tall powerful Reptilian beings live at the core of the Earth, pilot advanced flying craft, read minds and plot to enslave mankind by using grey Zeta-Reticulans, who have no choice but to assist because their race is dying from genetic inbreeding and they need help and have no where else to go, and that they have the government under their control through genetic cloning and electronic implants. It has even been proposed that members of the government are related to these aliens. This may sound a little silly, but some people believe it might be true. The positive side to this double edged sword is that the Pleadians are supposedly here to save us along with another group called the Arcturians. They are supposedly here to assist us in our higher spiritual development and help us break out of our old 3rd dimensional physical reality into the 4th dimension or multi-dimensional reality. All we have to do to receive their help is give up nuclear weapons, turn our lives to god and learn to live in peace. Although these are good ideas they are easier said than done.

Probably the best book I have read on the subject came to me recently after years of entertaining the idea of this possible reality of Aliens, gov. cover-ups, and so forth, all the while learning about secret societies and other related info. The book is called "Space Aliens from the Pentagon" by William Lyne. While the former reality may seem to be a little out of this world, the info presented in this book is a lot more down to Earth. According to Mr. Lyne, the secret societies in America and abroad have harnessed a naturally occurring "Free Energy" and have possessed and suppressed this secret for at least 80-100 years. Many people have heard of Albert Einstein and his Theory of Relativity (E=MC2). Most would consider him a genius although it is known that he was a Grade School dropout. Around the same time lived a man named Nikola Tesla. He came to America in the early 1900's as a scientist and inventor. He was responsible for many great discoveries, but it is not mentioned in history very much. He was responsible for Radio, Television, Fluorescent and Neon lighting, Helicopters, Lasers, Particle Beams and Alternating Current. If you haven't heard of him you should at least wonder why.

William Lyne is himself an inventor and scientist. Mr. Lyne claims that when Tesla came to America, he had under his arm blueprints for possibly the world's first FLYING SAUCER and it flew without the need for external energy. He intended to present it to the Geneva Convention as a proposed solution for world peace and energy liberation. He had theories of Magnetism and Anti-gravity as well as other forms of "Free Energy". The story goes that Einstein was working as a clerk at the Swiss Patent office at the time that Tesla was applying for his patents. Alternating Current was in the position of putting DC out of business, which meant that Edison and Westinghouse would suffer. J.P. Morgan, a Skull and Bones Banking Frontman, was financing Westinghouse and attempted to make arrangements to secure Tesla's patents through con deals and contracts. He used Einstein's position at the patent office to rip off several of Tesla's patents and then told him outright that since it would be difficult to collect money on this "Free Energy", that it would not be used or promoted in society. Instead, Einstein's Theory of Relativity would prevail and Tesla's Dynamic Theory of Gravity would be suppressed.

Today, it is impossible to locate some of Tesla's earlier patents. The Flying Saucer project was then moved out of the country to a secret joint German / American base near the South Pole called "Neu Shwabenland" or New Berlin, which was under the control of the Thule society, a secret society in Germany to which the SS belonged. Here, the crafts were perfected and outfitted with the latest technology and design. The Nazis created propaganda back home that Hitler was in touch with a Blond-haired, blue-eyed Aryan race of beings who communicated to him that he was chosen to lead the Germanic people. There was a resurgence of Occultism in Germany at this time. Hitler was into the occult and he was a master of propaganda. Remember, he stated "The bigger the lie, the easier to sell to the public", people believe what they want to believe. After W.W.II, during Operation Paperclip, hundreds of Nazi intelligence officers were secretly brought to America and given positions in the OSS (Office of Strategic Services), the forerunner to the CIA, supposedly to gain information on the Russians, our new enemy. Along with the Nazis came the flying saucer project.

The project was brought to New Mexico, where it was worked on further. Soon there were several sightings by people of mysterious flying objects and bright flying balls of light. In 1944 and 45, there were newspaper reports about flying balls of light possibly being advanced Nazi aircraft. They were called FOO-FIGHTERS. Then a couple of years later, in 1947, there was supposedly a flying saucer crash in the desert of Roswell, New Mexico, with advanced technology and even bodies of aliens recovered. This was reported on the front page of the newspaper and then it was explained away as a weather balloon. Within a few years science fiction films started coming out like crazy. (The day the Earth Stood Still-about the threat of war and the necessity to make peace with ourselves and the aliens, and War of the Worlds-H.G. Wells, a British Intelligence Agent).

There was a time in America in the 1950's, when it was trendy to wear alien antennas on your head or a Hat shaped like a flying saucer. This was the beginning of the first wave of American propaganda. Then in the 1970's, we had Star Wars, Close Encounters, Hanger 18, and eventually E.T. T.V. movies like Alien Nation and "V" were shown to us and now Sightings, The X-files, and even Roswell the movie. There is a consistent theme that suggests the government is involved in a super high level cosmic Watergate cover-up.

William Lyne claims to have seen this entire drama evolve from a simple bungled crash recovery story to the elaborate present day theory mentioned before. He basically says that this is the biggest "Free Energy Cover-up" scam ever perpetrated against the people of the world. Millions and millions of dollars are poured into an elaborate propaganda complex of Authors, Ph.D.'s, Ret. Military Officials and self proclaimed "Channelers" to distribute books and videos on these ideas. They fund UFO expos, research groups like MUFON, and UFO magazines. He even claims that he was offered money by the CIA to write phony scripts about being abducted by grey Zeta- Reticulans. He claims to have many contacts himself, through his own family and relatives and friends from previous service in the Air Force, who have confirmed this info. He claims the UFO expos are filled with disinformation agents.

Here are a couple of things to consider : 1. If you wanted to expose the government or publish books or videos on UFOs or aliens then where do you get the money to do it ? Who has this kind of money lying around and is willing to invest it in these ventures ? There is new information appearing that Lawrence Rockefeller has been behind the private financing of groups to discuss the UFO issue and undoubtedly promote more propaganda and lies. 2. If this is the government's biggest cover-up then how come all of this info is coming out all at once all over the place ? 3. After Bill Lyne presented this info for the first time at the UFO expo in California and was a huge success, why was he asked not to return and told that he would be better suited at the Extraordinary Experiences Expo ?

There has been some speculation that the government maybe preparing to "inform" the public about the supposed alien presence and possibly even present a staged landing or invasion scenario. Either way we may soon see, depending on how carefully we are watching. If this is the kind of technology the government had 50 and 100 years ago, then 166 mhz pentium processors are probably a far cry from REAL present day capabilities.
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Ne treba sve ovo gore progutat u paketu (onaj dio o Hitleru i New Swabenland je klimav ko stara kvaka), ali hajdemo malo razmislit o sljedecem scenariju.

Shape-shifting reptili kontroliraju Zemlju. Posto je televizija daleko najjace srestvo uticanja na siroke narodne mase, to bi im bilo prvo na meti preuzimanja.

Dok pisem ovaj tekst na televiziji idu dva filma. Na Novoj TV ide "Puppet Masters" - radi se o vanzemaljcima koji se prikvace na ljudski mozak i tako pokusavaju osvojit Zemlju. Na HTV-u ide "The Arrival" - radi se o vanzemaljcima koji u Meksiku imaju podzemnu bazu, mogu se shape-shiftat u ljudski oblik i naravno pokusavaju osvojit Zemlju. Pa dobro sto se ovdje dogadja... Zar nas to netko iz Hoolywooda pokusava upozorit da nas reptili osvajaju, ili to mocnici iz sjene pucaju po nama iz svih mogucih oruzja (tv, knjige ...itd) pokusavajuci nas uvjerit u reptilsku religiju? Pogledajmo tko bi taj dobricina iz Hollywood-a mogao biti, koji nas pokusava upozorit na postojanje reptila...

Who Rules Media in America?
http://www.realnews247.com/who_rules_am ... d_2004.htm

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http://www2.davidduke.com/index.php?p=141


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To one with an open mind, it would seem foolish to assume that we are alone in the universe. In contrast, to one with a closed mind and a probable lack of spirituality, it would appear that reality is made up only of what we see and feel physically.



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Zagor - duh sa sjekirom je napisao/la:
Posto je televizija daleko najjace srestvo uticanja na siroke narodne mase, to bi im bilo prvo na meti preuzimanja.



haha,kakvo crno preuzimanje,i TV i Holivud su njihove kreacije i orudja

Kad zavrshish sa izmishljanjem tople vode,ne bi bilo loshe da je upotrebish da se malo zaperesh,bajat ti je ovaj rasisam,zaudara,mnooooooooooooooooooooogoooooooooooooooooooo

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To one with an open mind, it would seem foolish to assume that we are alone in the universe. In contrast, to one with a closed mind and a probable lack of spirituality, it would appear that reality is made up only of what we see and feel physically.


"...elaborate propaganda complex of Authors, Ph.D.'s, Ret. Military Officials and self proclaimed "Channelers" to distribute books and videos on these ideas. They fund UFO expos, research groups like MUFON, and UFO magazines."

"he was offered money by the CIA to write phony scripts about being abducted by grey Zeta- Reticulans."

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haha,kakvo crno preuzimanje,i TV i Holivud su njihove kreacije i orudja


To je jasno svakom tko je procitao 2 zavjeraske knjige u zivotu, ali pravo pitanje je cija je to kreacija?

These persecuted Russian Jews who came to USA included Marcus Loew, who founded Loews Pictures, Louis B. Mayer and Samuel Goldwyn started Metro-Goldwyn Mayer (MGM). Barney Balaban launched Paramount and Harry Cohen formed Columbia Pictures. William Fox started Twentieth Century Fox. The four Jewish brothers, Jack, Samuel, Albert and Harry Warner who departed Poland only six years earlier formed Warner Brothers.


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Televizor je napravio čovjek po imeni Ivan Televizor. Po tome je i dobio ime :mrgreen:.

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Dajte ljudi sta mu uopste odgovarate na te gluposti, mozda ce biti dovoljno fin da ode ako ga ignorisemo, sto bi gubili vreme i energiju na izmisljanje rupe na saksiji.

Ili mozda da mu odgovaramo ozbiljno kao Pantagruel? Tako da ja mislim da je televizor ustvari izmislio Dzon Teveset :mrgreen:

I nemojte molim vas da odgovarate na ovaj moj malo revoltni post jer bi i to bilo gubljenje energije na gluposti.


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Dajte ljudi sta mu uopste odgovarate na te gluposti, mozda ce biti dovoljno fin da ode ako ga ignorisemo, sto bi gubili vreme i energiju na izmisljanje rupe na saksiji.


Copy/paste jedan stariji post od galaksije...

U ‘podrumu’ je onako kako jeste i uvijek ce biti onih koji se tamo sasvim lijepo osjecaju. Oni su tamo, jer je to jedna ravan postojanja koja je odgovarala njihovom stanju svijesti u datoj tacki vremena/prostora, tj. kada su se tamo zadesili. Medutim, nakon odredenog “vremena”, neki su ipak poceli da koriste svoj vlastiti um vise od drugih. Poceli su da dovode u pitanje sve podrumske svetinje (reptile, ufo, shape-shifting... o.a.) kao i ostale aspekte podrumskog realiteta. Poceli su sumnjati da “drug Marko” manipulise s njima “odozgo” (mada podrumski popovi, hodze, i vecina drugih uglednih “podrumasa” zestoko negiraju takvu jednu mogucnost).

Tako, oni koji su uspjeli da pored sve ove kampanje masovnog i individualnog ispiranja mozga koja se odvija u “podrumu”, bar malo da progledaju, vrlo brzo postanu frustrirani jer ono sto oni vide, vecina drugih ne vidi. Oni ce primjetiti da se nalaze u podrumu, dok vecina drugih oko njih nece to biti u stanju. Oni ce primjetiti kako “drug Marko” manipulise njima, dok drugi nece. Ako pocnu o svemu tome pricati, ostali ‘podrumasi’ ce ih proglasiti ‘konspirativnim teoreticarima’ ili ludim. Ako i dalje ostanu uporni, onda ce ih “drug Marko” ili njegovi “agenti” iz podruma, pokusati na neki nacin “neutralisati.”

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Zagore, pa ti samo kopi-pejstaš. Daj nest svoje ili stavi to u neki kontekst... Ovako mi to ne znaci nista vise nego kao da je neki dadaisticki kolaz.

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Neee, to je ipak fovizam, zivotinje bi trebalo da podsecaju na nesto drugo.Iako sam ja uvek naginjao Brakovoj formi ili pak tonalitetima boja jednog Oskara Kokoske u ranijem periodu.

Ne znam jednostavno nisam pametan, bauhausom sam bio skroz oboren......nesespa?


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Zagor - duh sa sjekirom je napisao/la:
Copy/paste jedan stariji post od galaksije...

U ‘podrumu’ je onako kako jeste i uvijek ce biti onih koji se tamo sasvim lijepo osjecaju. Oni su tamo, jer je to jedna ravan postojanja koja je odgovarala njihovom stanju svijesti u datoj tacki vremena/prostora, tj. kada su se tamo zadesili. Medutim, nakon odredenog “vremena”, neki su ipak poceli da koriste svoj vlastiti um vise od drugih. Poceli su da dovode u pitanje sve podrumske svetinje (reptile, ufo, shape-shifting... o.a.) kao i ostale aspekte podrumskog realiteta. Poceli su sumnjati da “drug Marko” manipulise s njima “odozgo” (mada podrumski popovi, hodze, i vecina drugih uglednih “podrumasa” zestoko negiraju takvu jednu mogucnost).

Tako, oni koji su uspjeli da pored sve ove kampanje masovnog i individualnog ispiranja mozga koja se odvija u “podrumu”, bar malo da progledaju, vrlo brzo postanu frustrirani jer ono sto oni vide, vecina drugih ne vidi. Oni ce primjetiti da se nalaze u podrumu, dok vecina drugih oko njih nece to biti u stanju. Oni ce primjetiti kako “drug Marko” manipulise njima, dok drugi nece. Ako pocnu o svemu tome pricati, ostali ‘podrumasi’ ce ih proglasiti ‘konspirativnim teoreticarima’ ili ludim. Ako i dalje ostanu uporni, onda ce ih “drug Marko” ili njegovi “agenti” iz podruma, pokusati na neki nacin “neutralisati."

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Zagore, licno vaspitanje i kultura nalazu da kada citiras neciji post ili jedan deo, svoje licno misljenje izneses nakon citata a ne da ga "dopises" u originalni tekst kao da je njegov integralni deo, jer se u tom slucaju to naziva PREVARA, a osoba koja to cini prevarant, lazov. A tako je u ovom slucaju.

Nije zacudno sto nisi naveo ceo post koji je galaksija pisao, na cijem pocetku jasno i nedvosmisleno kaze:

"To sto je to danasnje stanje svijesti ljudi rezultat jednog veoma sofisticirane manipulacije i programiranja, ni za to ne mozemo nikoga kriviti.
Oni koji manipulisu nama, cine to da bi odrzali sebe i svoju ravan postojanja (4D OPS). Oni zavise od nas, odnosno nase - energije. I njih treba razumjeti. "

Ono sto cudi jeste da si delu posta koji si citirao dodao nesto sto je u suprotnosti sa celim galaksijinim postom, a onda si takav citat izmenjene sustine predstavio Arbitriumu L. kao "kredibilnim" citatom koji potkrepljuje tvoje misljenje.

To bi se moglo nazvati MANIPULACIJOM, i ja sada ne bih ulazio u to da li je u pitanju manipulacija na svesnom ili nesvesnom nivou i koji su njeni motivi, ali cu reci da je to u suprotnosti sa sustinom ovog foruma, sta vise u suprotnosti sa svime sto bi mogli podrazumevati pod "budjenje" coveka.

Zagore, mozda ne bi bilo lose da sve ove tekstove i knjige koje navodis sagledas "kroz" sebe, i pokusas da prepoznas vlastite izmanipulisane mentalne sablone.
Preporucujem ti da krenes od ovog posta koji si citirao, ali ga procitaj u celosti:

http://www.galaksija.info/forum/viewtop ... ualnog#111


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Zašto bi netko uopće stvarao religiju?


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Možda da bi manipulirao ljudima tako... ?

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Možda da bi manipulirao ljudima tako... ?

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Možda... da ih se odvrati od važnijih pitanja u životu i općenitog napretka? Mislim... religija se "lako prodaje". Fino uđe... a ako zaglibiš - teško izađeš. Dobro... sve su to lekcije, na kraju krajeva.

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To je opet manipulacija hehe. Ma religija je kao zamisao ok, recimo...ali kako se provodi je katastrofa! Ne kužim kako ljudi mogu vjerovati u nešto što im predstavlja netko ko sam ne zna u što vjeruje i što radi. I zašto ne promisle kad im se nešto reče, ne mora bit vezano za religiju..zašto glume spužve i sve kupe bez da promisle..ili ako promisle i ne skuže i dalje idu tim pravcem samo zato šta većina ide? Zar im većina označava pravi put? Zašto im je netko tko ide drugim pravcem automatski lošiji? jer je drugačiji od njih? je li oni misle da postoje isti ljudi? jesu li oni jednostavno izgubljene samozvane ovce pa idu za izgubljenima iz straha da ne ostanu sami ili stvarno viruju, nepromišljeno, dobrim putem? šta je za njih dobar put i cilj?

zašto zašto zašto???


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Eto ja sam razmišljao o tome da stvorim religiju al samo za to da bi izbjegao plačanje poreza :mrgreen:

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Pridružen/a: uto mar 07, 2006 5:11 pm
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J.Searl je napisao/la:
zašto zašto zašto???


http://www.galaksija.info/forum/viewtop ... 31&start=0

http://www.galaksija.info/forum/viewtop ... 09&start=0

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Pridružen/a: ned dec 10, 2006 10:27 pm
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E hvala, čim uhvatim vremena proučit ću te tekstove...još kad bi postojali na audio onda nebi morala čitat :) :lol:


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